1 00:00:16,510 --> 00:00:12,570 [Music] 2 00:00:20,170 --> 00:00:16,520 this hope radio for the masses Atlanta 3 00:00:22,150 --> 00:00:20,180 between July 8 1947 the Army Air Force 4 00:00:23,769 --> 00:00:22,160 was Rezanov start applying their touch 5 00:00:26,349 --> 00:00:23,779 confound and there's now in the 6 00:00:30,580 --> 00:00:26,359 possession of the RA the game is rigged 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:30,590 change the game changer I occasionally 8 00:00:37,119 --> 00:00:33,410 think how quickly our differences 9 00:00:45,510 --> 00:00:37,129 worldwide would vanish if we were facing 10 00:00:50,820 --> 00:00:47,820 this is fade to black with your host 11 00:00:53,790 --> 00:00:50,830 Ginny church on the game-changer Radio 12 00:00:57,860 --> 00:00:53,800 Network and kera the Global Radio 13 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:00,610 we need your help to get to the year 14 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:03,010 1985 15 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:06,730 [Music] 16 00:01:11,780 --> 00:01:08,890 you're listening to fade to black with 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:11,790 Jimmy touch only game changing Network 18 00:01:40,530 --> 00:01:27,740 good evening fade to black 19 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:40,540 the smoke radio for Masse's you doing 20 00:01:49,270 --> 00:01:45,490 it's Monday that's right 21 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:51,969 what an amazing weekend we had in our 22 00:02:01,270 --> 00:01:54,200 community 23 00:02:08,380 --> 00:02:01,280 and we arrived to September 17 2018 264 24 00:02:11,470 --> 00:02:08,390 days into the new year just 101 days 25 00:02:12,820 --> 00:02:11,480 left I would like to welcome everybody 26 00:02:17,860 --> 00:02:12,830 listening all around the world all 27 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:17,870 across the United States we are live 28 00:02:27,150 --> 00:02:22,310 from a bunker somewhere in the middle of 29 00:02:32,070 --> 00:02:29,350 and I would I'd like to welcome 30 00:02:36,410 --> 00:02:35,040 east and west north and south far and 31 00:02:39,990 --> 00:02:36,420 near 32 00:02:41,970 --> 00:02:40,000 this is fade to black Turk AJC are the 33 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:41,980 game changer Network and K GRA the 34 00:02:46,380 --> 00:02:44,770 planet I'm euros Jimmy Church 35 00:02:49,650 --> 00:02:46,390 what is cracking everybody how you do 36 00:02:54,750 --> 00:02:49,660 and I hope you had a great weekend Rita 37 00:02:58,920 --> 00:02:54,760 and I went down to San Diego literally I 38 00:03:02,400 --> 00:02:58,930 posted one picture on Twitter one we 39 00:03:04,770 --> 00:03:02,410 just totally relaxed just engaged no 40 00:03:08,670 --> 00:03:04,780 social media nothing nothing turn the 41 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:08,680 phone's off and there you go so we're 42 00:03:14,220 --> 00:03:11,290 here we're back we've got an amazing 43 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:14,230 week lined up here on fade to black 44 00:03:20,010 --> 00:03:18,130 tonight Linda Moulton Howe is here to 45 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:20,020 discuss the recent closing of the 46 00:03:26,610 --> 00:03:22,450 National Solar Observatory by the FBI 47 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:26,620 and her excellent coverage on that of 48 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:28,810 course I posted an interview that I did 49 00:03:36,270 --> 00:03:32,410 with ransom Godwin over the weekend who 50 00:03:38,910 --> 00:03:36,280 courageously went up onto the grounds in 51 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:38,920 the compound up there and shot of some 52 00:03:45,600 --> 00:03:42,850 video and so I was able to reach out to 53 00:03:47,759 --> 00:03:45,610 ransom and the interview was amazing 54 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:47,769 we've got that up and you can go and 55 00:03:53,310 --> 00:03:50,050 check that out so that happened over the 56 00:03:57,870 --> 00:03:53,320 weekend and I think we posted the video 57 00:04:01,199 --> 00:03:57,880 I think I did that with ransom on Friday 58 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:01,209 right yeah I did that on Friday so there 59 00:04:04,740 --> 00:04:03,310 you go it's just been an amazing weekend 60 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:04,750 and Linda has been doing her coverage on 61 00:04:09,750 --> 00:04:07,450 it so she is here and we will be talking 62 00:04:12,300 --> 00:04:09,760 about that at the bottom of the hour 63 00:04:17,219 --> 00:04:12,310 tomorrow night right here on fade to 64 00:04:20,250 --> 00:04:17,229 black Freeman is here last week Reid and 65 00:04:22,740 --> 00:04:20,260 I went and watched Don peyote and if you 66 00:04:26,280 --> 00:04:22,750 haven't seen Don peyote maybe after the 67 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:26,290 show tonight go and watch Don peyote 68 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:30,130 watch the movie Freeman is just he's 69 00:04:35,370 --> 00:04:33,040 really good and he downplayed his role 70 00:04:37,530 --> 00:04:35,380 in the film he's he's excellent he's in 71 00:04:40,620 --> 00:04:37,540 a bunch of scenes there so anyway we 72 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:40,630 watched that last week and had nothing 73 00:04:45,170 --> 00:04:42,370 to do with Freeman being on the show 74 00:04:47,900 --> 00:04:45,180 isn't that weird how synchronicity works 75 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:47,910 but tomorrow night Freeman fly Freeman 76 00:04:53,270 --> 00:04:50,730 now he just goes by one one name Freeman 77 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:53,280 will be with us and then Wednesday night 78 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:54,810 it's been a while 79 00:05:01,460 --> 00:04:58,650 Clifford stone is back and he's here to 80 00:05:03,740 --> 00:05:01,470 talk about disclosure and it may not be 81 00:05:05,750 --> 00:05:03,750 what you think and he's got some 82 00:05:08,300 --> 00:05:05,760 documents we're gonna do all of that and 83 00:05:09,740 --> 00:05:08,310 that's kicking off on Wednesday night 84 00:05:11,660 --> 00:05:09,750 Thursday is another failure tonight with 85 00:05:14,510 --> 00:05:11,670 open lines all night long Jon Rappoport 86 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:14,520 of course is going to be here with his 87 00:05:22,070 --> 00:05:18,720 no more fake newsroom live all right now 88 00:05:24,980 --> 00:05:22,080 I've been on all of the social media 89 00:05:27,790 --> 00:05:24,990 sites over the weekend and today with 90 00:05:29,930 --> 00:05:27,800 all of this National Solar Observatory 91 00:05:32,420 --> 00:05:29,940 breaking news that has been going on 92 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:32,430 took a little bit I mean we first 93 00:05:36,050 --> 00:05:34,290 covered it at the beginning of the week 94 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:36,060 last week the mainstream media 95 00:05:42,020 --> 00:05:38,610 eventually did pick it up I think even 96 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:42,030 CNN had it yesterday or maybe the day 97 00:05:47,930 --> 00:05:44,070 before of course it was covered in Fox 98 00:05:51,740 --> 00:05:47,940 and RT and and so forth but it was all 99 00:05:53,510 --> 00:05:51,750 over the web and I had to stay on top of 100 00:05:58,490 --> 00:05:53,520 social media the best that I could 101 00:05:59,960 --> 00:05:58,500 because of it just everywhere everywhere 102 00:06:03,470 --> 00:05:59,970 that you can think everybody was 103 00:06:06,590 --> 00:06:03,480 covering it luckily not only do we have 104 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:06,600 Linda in New Mexico but aside from that 105 00:06:11,870 --> 00:06:08,490 we were able to reach out to so many 106 00:06:14,690 --> 00:06:11,880 people that were were there on location 107 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:14,700 and on top of that I got the story 108 00:06:20,060 --> 00:06:16,890 broken to me from somebody that was up 109 00:06:23,570 --> 00:06:20,070 there right after the closure happened 110 00:06:27,650 --> 00:06:23,580 and it wasn't in the media yet so now 111 00:06:30,170 --> 00:06:27,660 also maybe tomorrow it might be 112 00:06:33,020 --> 00:06:30,180 Wednesday night but a friend of ours and 113 00:06:37,090 --> 00:06:33,030 a friend of yours had an airplane crash 114 00:06:39,260 --> 00:06:37,100 in his backyard today yeah literally and 115 00:06:43,460 --> 00:06:39,270 things are a little bit hectic right now 116 00:06:44,930 --> 00:06:43,470 a little bit traumatic but we will have 117 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:44,940 I don't want to say what it is I just 118 00:06:49,310 --> 00:06:46,650 want him to have his privacy right now 119 00:06:52,190 --> 00:06:49,320 but he's gonna be on with us maybe 120 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:52,200 tomorrow night to talk about that pretty 121 00:06:58,280 --> 00:06:55,890 incredible to see what he went through 122 00:06:58,970 --> 00:06:58,290 so that'll be tomorrow night anyway 123 00:07:03,110 --> 00:06:58,980 follow 124 00:07:05,330 --> 00:07:03,120 on Twitter at J Church radio EDA Church 125 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:05,340 radio that's on Twitter hashtag F to B 126 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:09,090 is the sandbox and hashtag have to be Q 127 00:07:12,650 --> 00:07:11,010 is fade to black questions you can also 128 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:12,660 email me throughout the show Jimmy at 129 00:07:18,490 --> 00:07:15,810 Jimmy turret radio calm okay breaking 130 00:07:21,500 --> 00:07:18,500 news the National Solar Observatory 131 00:07:24,950 --> 00:07:21,510 reopened today with a statement released 132 00:07:28,190 --> 00:07:24,960 from aura about the FBI evacuation I 133 00:07:30,860 --> 00:07:28,200 posted the statement today over at on 134 00:07:32,350 --> 00:07:30,870 stellar on stellar comm you can go and 135 00:07:34,940 --> 00:07:32,360 read the full statement over there I 136 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:34,950 mentioned earlier I interviewed ransom 137 00:07:40,370 --> 00:07:37,170 Godwin who shot the video of the empty 138 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:40,380 compound I spoke with him earlier today 139 00:07:44,930 --> 00:07:43,650 and he said as of last night they made 140 00:07:46,130 --> 00:07:44,940 this announcement yesterday this 141 00:07:48,230 --> 00:07:46,140 statement that they were gonna reopen 142 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:48,240 they went out there last night and the 143 00:07:53,930 --> 00:07:50,490 entire site was still empty and no 144 00:07:56,330 --> 00:07:53,940 security there at all they sent me some 145 00:07:59,480 --> 00:07:56,340 drone footage I didn't know that there 146 00:08:02,870 --> 00:07:59,490 was that many houses up there of the 147 00:08:05,450 --> 00:08:02,880 empty streets pretty much still the same 148 00:08:09,620 --> 00:08:05,460 it's a ghost town but they did reopen 149 00:08:12,920 --> 00:08:09,630 today and a security guard up there was 150 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:12,930 spoken to as well and I think Linda is 151 00:08:19,180 --> 00:08:14,490 gonna have some more information on that 152 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:19,190 shortly other breaking news coca-cola 153 00:08:27,580 --> 00:08:23,490 coca-cola is considering a move into the 154 00:08:31,190 --> 00:08:27,590 growing market for cannabis infused 155 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:31,200 drinks that's right coke said in a 156 00:08:37,580 --> 00:08:33,510 statement today that it is closely 157 00:08:39,830 --> 00:08:37,590 watching the growth of CBD right you 158 00:08:42,650 --> 00:08:39,840 know the non psychoactive component in 159 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:42,660 marijuana as an ingredient in what it 160 00:08:49,370 --> 00:08:46,770 called functional wellness beverages 161 00:08:53,090 --> 00:08:49,380 Coca Cola's and talks with Aurora 162 00:08:55,820 --> 00:08:53,100 cannabis a Canadian company Aurora has 163 00:09:00,080 --> 00:08:55,830 also expressed interest in cannabis 164 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:00,090 drinks Constellation Brands the makers 165 00:09:07,580 --> 00:09:03,930 of Corona beer Svedka vodka and Casa 166 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:07,590 Noblet tequila announced last month that 167 00:09:12,889 --> 00:09:11,370 they were investing four billion dollars 168 00:09:19,069 --> 00:09:12,899 in the Canadian cannabis 169 00:09:24,139 --> 00:09:19,079 company canopy growth CBD marijuana all 170 00:09:26,119 --> 00:09:24,149 of it is here it's pretty crazy isn't it 171 00:09:28,220 --> 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calling them deep blue.the Jimmy Church 186 00:10:13,850 --> 00:10:11,100 model is going to be available now what 187 00:10:18,410 --> 00:10:13,860 when and where just stay tuned with us 188 00:10:20,509 --> 00:10:18,420 over the next week or so maybe about two 189 00:10:24,079 --> 00:10:20,519 weeks we will have all the information 190 00:10:26,329 --> 00:10:24,089 up that you need but I'm very very 191 00:10:30,079 --> 00:10:26,339 excited I can't get into any other 192 00:10:32,449 --> 00:10:30,089 details than that skip this show 193 00:10:36,949 --> 00:10:32,459 cracking our dead guys birthday today is 194 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:36,959 John Ritter 1948 to 2003 yeah there was 195 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:39,569 Three's Company and I get that but he 196 00:10:45,590 --> 00:10:42,689 also made the greatest UFO documentary 197 00:10:50,540 --> 00:10:45,600 film ever that's right 198 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:50,550 real men and he made that back in 1987 199 00:10:56,179 --> 00:10:53,490 and if he haven't seen that movie real 200 00:11:00,169 --> 00:10:56,189 men with Jim Belushi and John Ritter 201 00:11:03,799 --> 00:11:00,179 right there 1987 on September 11th 202 00:11:07,179 --> 00:11:03,809 strangely enough 2003 he started having 203 00:11:09,259 --> 00:11:07,189 heart problems and he was rehearsing 204 00:11:12,439 --> 00:11:09,269 right here in Burbank 205 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:12,449 he began sweating vomiting chest pains 206 00:11:16,429 --> 00:11:14,490 he's taken across the street to the 207 00:11:18,470 --> 00:11:16,439 Providence st. Joseph's Medical Center 208 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:18,480 in Burbank by coincidence the same 209 00:11:24,079 --> 00:11:21,569 hospital where he was born and both of 210 00:11:26,510 --> 00:11:24,089 our daughters were born at st. Joseph's 211 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:26,520 right here by coincidence 212 00:11:31,699 --> 00:11:29,160 and that's where he was born physicians 213 00:11:34,579 --> 00:11:31,709 misdiagnosed Ritter treated him for a 214 00:11:36,829 --> 00:11:34,589 heart attack but things got worse 215 00:11:39,260 --> 00:11:36,839 he diagonally diagnosed Ritter with 216 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:39,270 having an aortic dissection a tear in 217 00:11:46,329 --> 00:11:42,330 the aorta that grows he died during 218 00:11:48,170 --> 00:11:46,339 surgery to repair it six days before his 219 00:11:53,470 --> 00:11:48,180 55th birthday 220 00:11:57,650 --> 00:11:53,480 I'm the stay in history OTD 1976 NASA 221 00:12:00,110 --> 00:11:57,660 publicly unveils for the first time the 222 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:00,120 space shuttle that's right the Space 223 00:12:10,340 --> 00:12:03,330 Shuttle enterprise on this day in 1976 224 00:12:15,350 --> 00:12:10,350 Fader fact the word oxymoron is itself 225 00:12:20,780 --> 00:12:15,360 an oxymoron this is because it derives 226 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:20,790 from ancient Greek wear oxy means sharp 227 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:26,250 and morose which means stupid think 228 00:12:32,620 --> 00:12:28,649 about that the next time you hear 229 00:12:37,670 --> 00:12:32,630 someone using the word trying to sound 230 00:12:41,030 --> 00:12:37,680 smart think about that now also on this 231 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:41,040 day in history it's a big day that's 232 00:12:48,610 --> 00:12:44,970 right bringing on Kurtis Don Vito the 233 00:12:51,260 --> 00:12:48,620 lead singer of snow because Kurtis today 234 00:12:52,670 --> 00:12:51,270 your new album is released and I'm 235 00:12:57,110 --> 00:12:52,680 holding it up to the cameras right there 236 00:13:00,110 --> 00:12:57,120 how you doing yes it's out there baby 237 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:00,120 yes it is I'm holding it up and there it 238 00:13:08,540 --> 00:13:04,680 is it's amazing I've had it for a little 239 00:13:12,889 --> 00:13:08,550 bit I got the sneak preview yeah it's a 240 00:13:15,829 --> 00:13:12,899 great CD man oh thanks thanks yes where 241 00:13:17,060 --> 00:13:15,839 can every got some nerve you've got some 242 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:17,070 nerve I get some real statements there 243 00:13:22,420 --> 00:13:18,810 with that one know what working every 244 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:22,430 light of everything oxymoronic yeah oh 245 00:13:27,740 --> 00:13:25,050 that's funny that's funny 246 00:13:29,630 --> 00:13:27,750 where can everybody go and get it I've 247 00:13:32,870 --> 00:13:29,640 got mine working everybody go and get 248 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:32,880 theirs well you can go to our websites 249 00:13:35,210 --> 00:13:34,770 new you.com or you can go to sue 250 00:13:38,180 --> 00:13:35,220 store.com 251 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:38,190 or you can find it iTunes and Amazon and 252 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:39,930 pretty much anywhere 253 00:13:47,270 --> 00:13:43,530 now my the opening track on this you are 254 00:13:49,930 --> 00:13:47,280 freaking me out is is right there but 255 00:13:52,250 --> 00:13:49,940 the other tracks on this like holy hell 256 00:13:54,140 --> 00:13:52,260 which is is really good 257 00:13:57,110 --> 00:13:54,150 do you have a favorite track right now 258 00:14:01,550 --> 00:13:57,120 do you go back and listen to to stuff 259 00:14:03,980 --> 00:14:01,560 after you do it well yeah yeah you know 260 00:14:05,270 --> 00:14:03,990 we definitely go back and make sure that 261 00:14:10,580 --> 00:14:05,280 we definitely want to put it out there 262 00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:10,590 the worst so yeah you know I can't say 263 00:14:14,750 --> 00:14:12,120 which one every day it's a different one 264 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:14,760 it's like oh you know it's you're 265 00:14:17,390 --> 00:14:15,450 freaking me out 266 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:17,400 well maybe it's a settling queen maybe 267 00:14:23,060 --> 00:14:20,730 it's you know it city spending roulette 268 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:23,070 wheel yeah yeah I'm with you on that and 269 00:14:29,180 --> 00:14:26,370 it's it's classics new but one of the 270 00:14:31,850 --> 00:14:29,190 things that I love about you guys and 271 00:14:34,810 --> 00:14:31,860 you know I have talked about this yeah 272 00:14:38,180 --> 00:14:34,820 you guys are all about the rock and roll 273 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:38,190 right you're about guitar what else well 274 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:39,570 you know that's what I'm saying 275 00:14:45,620 --> 00:14:43,170 and this weekend Curtis Reed and I we 276 00:14:47,150 --> 00:14:45,630 went out of town and we relaxed and we 277 00:14:48,560 --> 00:14:47,160 were listening to music and we were 278 00:14:51,050 --> 00:14:48,570 hanging out with some friends and one of 279 00:14:56,450 --> 00:14:51,060 the things that we talked about is I'm 280 00:14:59,360 --> 00:14:56,460 not so sure if kids today understand 281 00:15:03,380 --> 00:14:59,370 what it's like to emotionally freak out 282 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:03,390 when you see a band perform live or when 283 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:08,250 you you know when you hear an album that 284 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:11,250 was a band in the studio playing as a 285 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:13,530 band I'm not taking away from the 286 00:15:21,130 --> 00:15:15,420 electronic stuff that goes on today 287 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:21,140 that's fine yeah that's what you know 288 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:24,060 that human element that's being stripped 289 00:15:30,050 --> 00:15:25,770 away from music everything's got to be 290 00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:30,060 perfect now you know and it's all it's 291 00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:34,800 all digitally mixed and and manipulated 292 00:15:39,980 --> 00:15:36,720 and moved around in the computer so that 293 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:39,990 every beat is exactly perfect and and I 294 00:15:48,050 --> 00:15:43,530 can appreciate you know that but the 295 00:15:50,090 --> 00:15:48,060 human element is stripped away and you 296 00:15:52,550 --> 00:15:50,100 know as musicians you know the music you 297 00:15:53,610 --> 00:15:52,560 listen to some of the you know some of 298 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:53,620 the lot of live stuff 299 00:15:57,990 --> 00:15:56,050 still going on and it's not dead right 300 00:16:01,530 --> 00:15:58,000 right when you listen to the older stuff 301 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:01,540 it's like you know it's not perfect 302 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:05,410 computer rhythms it's it moves and it 303 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:07,390 takes you along for a ride you know and 304 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:10,570 it breathes just like you do I love this 305 00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:12,610 stuff so you know what we're recording 306 00:16:19,860 --> 00:16:16,870 yeah we don't help lady tricks we get 307 00:16:24,180 --> 00:16:19,870 any replayed live you know well as a 308 00:16:27,870 --> 00:16:24,190 singer when I listen to this and I and I 309 00:16:30,510 --> 00:16:27,880 hear the way that you do do you do you 310 00:16:33,810 --> 00:16:30,520 go in and pick your stuff apart and like 311 00:16:36,420 --> 00:16:33,820 replace words or replace syllables or do 312 00:16:39,990 --> 00:16:36,430 you use sing entire lines and just try 313 00:16:44,670 --> 00:16:40,000 to get everything there because of the 314 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:44,680 feeling well what we usually do is is 315 00:16:51,660 --> 00:16:48,610 I'll do at least three takes just I'll 316 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:51,670 do it the way it was written and I'll do 317 00:16:55,410 --> 00:16:53,170 it another way and I'll change a few 318 00:16:57,540 --> 00:16:55,420 things just to see you know and then 319 00:16:59,550 --> 00:16:57,550 I'll listen to that and I'll go okay let 320 00:17:01,980 --> 00:16:59,560 me try this and then we'll listen to 321 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:01,990 everything down and go yeah let's go 322 00:17:07,350 --> 00:17:05,290 back to the original what happens but 323 00:17:09,090 --> 00:17:07,360 sometimes you strike gold and you know 324 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:09,100 so you get in there and you utilize the 325 00:17:14,070 --> 00:17:11,230 studio for what it is you know you got 326 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:14,080 the ability to do multiple takes so we 327 00:17:21,690 --> 00:17:16,470 go for it well and see I think that's 328 00:17:25,620 --> 00:17:21,700 one of the tools that people have today 329 00:17:29,340 --> 00:17:25,630 is wall Pro Tools and in digital editing 330 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:29,350 and now it has become a crutch that's so 331 00:17:31,650 --> 00:17:29,650 many 332 00:17:33,390 --> 00:17:31,660 yeah they don't go and learn the whole 333 00:17:37,010 --> 00:17:33,400 song they're not even worried about that 334 00:17:39,630 --> 00:17:37,020 they know that they can go in and do a 335 00:17:40,950 --> 00:17:39,640 gazillion takes and then turn around and 336 00:17:44,180 --> 00:17:40,960 just piece all of this stuff together 337 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:44,190 and then use they also tune it right 338 00:17:49,500 --> 00:17:46,510 yeah and then you don't have to be great 339 00:17:51,690 --> 00:17:49,510 thing it's just you know I'm - no you're 340 00:17:53,550 --> 00:17:51,700 perfect that's right and and so they 341 00:17:54,990 --> 00:17:53,560 don't they don't practice anymore 342 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:55,000 they're not even going to the studio 343 00:18:01,080 --> 00:17:58,330 prepared the studio is a place for them 344 00:18:04,140 --> 00:18:01,090 to just go and assemble and not 345 00:18:07,430 --> 00:18:04,150 necessarily perform it it's a producer's 346 00:18:12,590 --> 00:18:07,440 game they just bring they 347 00:18:15,169 --> 00:18:12,600 to be the face they're pretty much you 348 00:18:18,999 --> 00:18:15,179 know that's why I was popular stuff 349 00:18:21,799 --> 00:18:19,009 normal yeah is lost on the same because 350 00:18:24,230 --> 00:18:21,809 there's like we're two producers loosing 351 00:18:29,840 --> 00:18:24,240 all of the acts and they're writing the 352 00:18:33,259 --> 00:18:29,850 songs I saw this was last year I think 353 00:18:33,950 --> 00:18:33,269 it was read a corrected me and it was 354 00:18:40,700 --> 00:18:33,960 Beyonce 355 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:40,710 and that had all of like eight words in 356 00:18:54,680 --> 00:18:44,450 the entire song right eighth word 357 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:54,690 55 0 50 producers really 5050 I don't 358 00:18:57,980 --> 00:18:56,129 know what you have to do today to get 359 00:19:02,899 --> 00:18:57,990 your name on somebody's track as a 360 00:19:04,549 --> 00:19:02,909 producer you know I know oh you get all 361 00:19:09,049 --> 00:19:04,559 the eggs a question just you need that 362 00:19:11,539 --> 00:19:09,059 much help I mean I don't want to be 363 00:19:12,950 --> 00:19:11,549 critical you know I know the answers get 364 00:19:13,460 --> 00:19:12,960 a lot of fans but does she need that 365 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:13,470 much help 366 00:19:19,009 --> 00:19:15,690 well I guess the periods and the 367 00:19:21,019 --> 00:19:19,019 apostrophes and the commas all get put 368 00:19:24,710 --> 00:19:21,029 in credits right they all get producer 369 00:19:28,669 --> 00:19:24,720 credits so now what are you guys touring 370 00:19:29,990 --> 00:19:28,679 what's what's the plans yeah and a 371 00:19:33,649 --> 00:19:30,000 couple of months we're gonna be heading 372 00:19:36,499 --> 00:19:33,659 to the UK and we're gonna do a trek 373 00:19:39,649 --> 00:19:36,509 around there you're gonna and everything 374 00:19:42,590 --> 00:19:39,659 booked ready to go yeah well there's 375 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:42,600 this tell adding dates so you know well 376 00:19:46,779 --> 00:19:45,450 no well no we're we get there yeah yeah 377 00:19:49,700 --> 00:19:46,789 I know how that can go 378 00:19:51,950 --> 00:19:49,710 Graham Graham bonnet tweeted out today 379 00:19:54,169 --> 00:19:51,960 that he just got back from his three or 380 00:19:54,919 --> 00:19:54,179 four weeks over in the UK and he's 381 00:19:58,430 --> 00:19:54,929 immediately 382 00:19:59,990 --> 00:19:58,440 yeah he's heading over to Japan to play 383 00:20:06,049 --> 00:20:00,000 with Michael Schenker and msg 384 00:20:08,180 --> 00:20:06,059 I know yeah yeah well yeah well you know 385 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:08,190 we're playing Michael shaker were 386 00:20:12,289 --> 00:20:10,830 festival of a played in Wales shakers 387 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:12,299 play and I wonder if Graham's gonna be 388 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:14,450 there yeah Wow wouldn't that be great 389 00:20:20,779 --> 00:20:18,450 yeah you know grandma yep I run into 390 00:20:22,249 --> 00:20:20,789 grandma I'll mention you well I I 391 00:20:24,859 --> 00:20:22,259 reached out to him today 392 00:20:28,430 --> 00:20:24,869 which reminds me okay I want to back up 393 00:20:31,279 --> 00:20:28,440 I remember we're talking about talking 394 00:20:33,859 --> 00:20:31,289 about being prepared in the studio today 395 00:20:37,759 --> 00:20:33,869 right now it's this Pro Tools world and 396 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:37,769 and nobody rehearse --is but there are 397 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:40,110 there were times when I would go into a 398 00:20:46,700 --> 00:20:44,129 studio and the singers well or the band 399 00:20:48,169 --> 00:20:46,710 that's practiced and rehearsed they go 400 00:20:50,930 --> 00:20:48,179 when they get their stuff done it's a 401 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:50,940 job and and they prepare and they write 402 00:20:56,810 --> 00:20:54,570 and singers that prepare you can tell 403 00:21:01,759 --> 00:20:56,820 they come in they know what they want to 404 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:01,769 do and I remember Ronnie Dio cutting 405 00:21:08,899 --> 00:21:05,970 these tracks and I'm listening to them 406 00:21:12,590 --> 00:21:08,909 from you know outside of the studio door 407 00:21:14,509 --> 00:21:12,600 just blasting through like the whole 408 00:21:15,859 --> 00:21:14,519 song and going okay let's play the act 409 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:15,869 I'm gonna double a couple of tracks 410 00:21:18,139 --> 00:21:17,730 let's go through okay boo boo boo boo 411 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:18,149 boo 412 00:21:22,490 --> 00:21:20,970 all in order right he's doubling these 413 00:21:25,159 --> 00:21:22,500 parts he wants a double Kara's go back 414 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:25,169 with harmonies and you know so the song 415 00:21:33,940 --> 00:21:28,980 is five minutes long he was done I mean 416 00:21:36,590 --> 00:21:33,950 he was done within like 30 minutes I 417 00:21:38,629 --> 00:21:36,600 remember him walking out I might be 418 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:38,639 exaggerating it might have been 32 419 00:21:46,009 --> 00:21:41,610 minutes but he comes he comes out of the 420 00:21:49,549 --> 00:21:46,019 studio he goes let's have dinner I was 421 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:49,559 like you know he's there to work right 422 00:21:54,169 --> 00:21:51,690 to get it done oh yeah you could tell 423 00:21:55,399 --> 00:21:54,179 yeah is that mean that guy that guy's 424 00:21:58,909 --> 00:21:55,409 always nailed it 425 00:22:01,340 --> 00:21:58,919 you know that he put the work in and all 426 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:01,350 the effort it took to be that great well 427 00:22:06,909 --> 00:22:03,570 that's the way I hear it from you on 428 00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:06,919 this record do you work the same way 429 00:22:13,249 --> 00:22:12,240 well yeah I mean nail it you know and we 430 00:22:14,810 --> 00:22:13,259 I don't want to go in there waste 431 00:22:18,740 --> 00:22:14,820 anybody's time when we're recording 432 00:22:21,379 --> 00:22:18,750 right you know he and I get in there you 433 00:22:24,139 --> 00:22:21,389 know and what what we usually do is you 434 00:22:26,869 --> 00:22:24,149 know the whole band will be in there for 435 00:22:28,849 --> 00:22:26,879 basic tracks we'll lay it down live and 436 00:22:31,220 --> 00:22:28,859 then we'll come in after that you know 437 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:31,230 we'll do some overlays and and exid 438 00:22:35,299 --> 00:22:33,690 eventually I'll get to do my real vocal 439 00:22:37,879 --> 00:22:35,309 track at that point it's what's called 440 00:22:41,930 --> 00:22:37,889 scratch vocal and if those guys want to 441 00:22:44,930 --> 00:22:41,940 run down a song ten times you know 442 00:22:48,980 --> 00:22:44,940 I'm singing the whole time it's it's so 443 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:48,990 true because the the other side for me 444 00:22:56,869 --> 00:22:54,330 is when I watch your live videos and you 445 00:23:00,560 --> 00:22:56,879 guys are there we hurt I mean from the 446 00:23:02,930 --> 00:23:00,570 from the word go you guys live are as 447 00:23:05,779 --> 00:23:02,940 impressive as what the albums are which 448 00:23:07,399 --> 00:23:05,789 says to me but you guys went in cut 449 00:23:09,529 --> 00:23:07,409 these albums ready to go 450 00:23:12,529 --> 00:23:09,539 the songs were ready to go and when 451 00:23:15,259 --> 00:23:12,539 you're going out live you hear that you 452 00:23:17,299 --> 00:23:15,269 hear that the band is there for the 453 00:23:19,220 --> 00:23:17,309 audience and they're they're there to 454 00:23:21,230 --> 00:23:19,230 impress and that's that's what I get out 455 00:23:23,779 --> 00:23:21,240 of snoo and I'm not I'm not joking 456 00:23:26,269 --> 00:23:23,789 around about this well thank you it's 457 00:23:28,879 --> 00:23:26,279 it's it's nice to hear I appreciate that 458 00:23:31,460 --> 00:23:28,889 I got you're right I mean we definitely 459 00:23:34,970 --> 00:23:31,470 you know want to give everything we have 460 00:23:37,159 --> 00:23:34,980 to the audience I mean we do it for 461 00:23:39,859 --> 00:23:37,169 ourselves we love it but you know what 462 00:23:43,159 --> 00:23:39,869 when they're feeling it then we feel it 463 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:43,169 twice as much so we're giving it to the 464 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:45,960 audience and then they give it back and 465 00:23:49,730 --> 00:23:47,730 then it just spins around in a big 466 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:49,740 circle and it's a giant ball of energy 467 00:23:54,919 --> 00:23:53,510 and everybody just high on music it's so 468 00:23:57,259 --> 00:23:54,929 awesome 469 00:24:00,560 --> 00:23:57,269 Rita just said we're gonna have a 470 00:24:11,779 --> 00:24:00,570 karaoke night over at the house and and 471 00:24:13,099 --> 00:24:11,789 so you're invited yeah I know yeah you 472 00:24:15,230 --> 00:24:13,109 know what maybe you and I can do the 473 00:24:16,780 --> 00:24:15,240 Righteous Brothers together we'll do 474 00:24:21,019 --> 00:24:16,790 like Unchained Melody 475 00:24:26,519 --> 00:24:24,180 Curtis Curtis thank you so much my 476 00:24:31,889 --> 00:24:26,529 friend and again everybody can go to 477 00:24:35,279 --> 00:24:31,899 snow you dot-com where else you can find 478 00:24:37,830 --> 00:24:35,289 us on you know Amazon and iTunes and 479 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:37,840 Spotify and any place you want to go 480 00:24:42,659 --> 00:24:39,690 it's an amazing record man 481 00:24:44,399 --> 00:24:42,669 congratulations it sounds it's it's 482 00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:44,409 everything that rock and roll should be 483 00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:47,919 and I love the rock and roll and and 484 00:24:52,250 --> 00:24:50,470 kerlick is it and you know there's 485 00:24:56,009 --> 00:24:52,260 another part of this everybody this is 486 00:24:58,519 --> 00:24:56,019 so much for our community just go and 487 00:25:01,200 --> 00:24:58,529 listen to the words and and you know 488 00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:01,210 where Curtis comes from and where his 489 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:04,809 mind is and this is this is for our 490 00:25:09,450 --> 00:25:06,340 community it's just really well done 491 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:09,460 thank you so much Curtis thanks Jimmy 492 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:11,860 have a great night my friend okay 493 00:25:15,870 --> 00:25:14,110 brother there's nothing like the CD 494 00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:15,880 release day are you guys having a party 495 00:25:20,340 --> 00:25:18,549 tonight somewhere what do you guys I'm 496 00:25:23,009 --> 00:25:20,350 partying with you right now and all the 497 00:25:25,259 --> 00:25:23,019 fate or not I'm surprises this is a huge 498 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:25,269 party I'm surprised you know all day all 499 00:25:30,210 --> 00:25:28,450 day all night it's it's just you've got 500 00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:30,220 some nerve party for us I'm surprised 501 00:25:41,340 --> 00:25:37,370 Curtis man congratulations my friend 502 00:25:43,620 --> 00:25:41,350 thank you thank you so much Curtis yeah 503 00:25:47,009 --> 00:25:43,630 thank you so much Curtis Curtis Don Vito 504 00:25:50,700 --> 00:25:47,019 from snow the album just released today 505 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:50,710 it is called you've got some nerve and 506 00:25:57,750 --> 00:25:54,970 you can find it everywhere there it is 507 00:25:59,399 --> 00:25:57,760 snoo you've got some nerve all right now 508 00:26:01,740 --> 00:25:59,409 coming up in a couple of minutes I'm 509 00:26:05,519 --> 00:26:01,750 going to get out of here Linda Moulton 510 00:26:09,169 --> 00:26:05,529 Howe is going to be here our community 511 00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:09,179 has and had some of the most dramatic 512 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:12,580 stuff happened to it this past week with 513 00:26:21,090 --> 00:26:16,330 the closure and the evacuation of the 514 00:26:23,530 --> 00:26:21,100 National Solar Observatory I've posted 515 00:26:29,169 --> 00:26:26,890 somebody that went up there and shot the 516 00:26:31,870 --> 00:26:29,179 empty streets a virtual ghost town a 517 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:31,880 couple of things that ransom found 518 00:26:36,669 --> 00:26:34,730 ransom Godwin that he was up to when he 519 00:26:40,570 --> 00:26:36,679 was up there that I thought were so 520 00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:40,580 intriguing one the workshop was left 521 00:26:47,530 --> 00:26:43,910 open garage door tools everything just 522 00:26:49,419 --> 00:26:47,540 out no security anywhere that's the 523 00:26:51,850 --> 00:26:49,429 first thing and I found that very very 524 00:26:53,500 --> 00:26:51,860 strange he said he also felt that it was 525 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:53,510 sanitized it was to clean all the 526 00:26:57,730 --> 00:26:55,490 windows were cleaned the floors were 527 00:27:02,020 --> 00:26:57,740 mopped you could see footprints in the 528 00:27:03,430 --> 00:27:02,030 freshly mopped floors and then at the 529 00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:03,440 end of one of the hallways in the 530 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:06,080 laboratory on the top of the trash can 531 00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:13,250 is a video game The X Files now was this 532 00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:18,169 some kind of clue was this a joke I it 533 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:22,270 was definitely done for a reason right 534 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:25,490 think about that well all of that 535 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:28,490 brought this community into asking some 536 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:31,130 of the craziest questions that had to be 537 00:27:35,950 --> 00:27:33,890 asked there was also some disinformation 538 00:27:37,750 --> 00:27:35,960 and other stuff that was going on out 539 00:27:39,610 --> 00:27:37,760 there on the web all right and we're 540 00:27:41,470 --> 00:27:39,620 gonna discuss all of that tonight with 541 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:41,480 Linda Moulton Howe lots more to cover 542 00:27:47,110 --> 00:27:44,210 with Linda as well you know how it is 543 00:27:48,909 --> 00:27:47,120 when Linda is on fade to black so we're 544 00:27:50,130 --> 00:27:48,919 gonna do all of that tonight I'll be 545 00:27:52,659 --> 00:27:50,140 right back 546 00:27:55,330 --> 00:27:52,669 fade to black I'm the game changer 547 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:55,340 network and kg RA 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can follow 633 00:33:22,230 --> 00:33:18,400 me on twitter at JDO you can follow 634 00:33:23,970 --> 00:33:22,240 Linda at earthfiles on Twitter it's 635 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:23,980 right there we've got all the links up 636 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:26,410 come and join the conversation - hashtag 637 00:33:29,970 --> 00:33:27,610 f2b 638 00:33:32,940 --> 00:33:29,980 we're going to burn through two three 639 00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:32,950 four thousand tweets tonight and come 640 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:34,450 over and join the conversation any 641 00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:35,970 questions or comments during the show 642 00:33:42,270 --> 00:33:40,510 hashtag f2b q tonight we're going to 643 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:42,280 discuss the sudden closure and 644 00:33:47,100 --> 00:33:43,810 evacuation of the National Solar 645 00:33:49,470 --> 00:33:47,110 Observatory and with Linda the 646 00:33:52,140 --> 00:33:49,480 conversation will go anywhere so I 647 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:52,150 promise you we will do that - the 648 00:33:57,150 --> 00:33:54,730 observatory was partially reopened today 649 00:33:59,970 --> 00:33:57,160 what was the real reason behind it and 650 00:34:02,280 --> 00:33:59,980 will we ever have the truth we'll find 651 00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:02,290 out tonight from Linda who is a graduate 652 00:34:06,150 --> 00:34:03,910 of Stanford University with a master's 653 00:34:08,340 --> 00:34:06,160 degree in communication she has devoted 654 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:08,350 her documentary film television radio 655 00:34:13,139 --> 00:34:10,450 and writing and reporting career to 656 00:34:14,820 --> 00:34:13,149 productions concerning science medicine 657 00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:14,830 and the environment 658 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:17,169 she has received three regional Emmys a 659 00:34:23,369 --> 00:34:20,110 national Emmy nomination and a station 660 00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:23,379 Peabody Award and of course there is 661 00:34:27,389 --> 00:34:24,790 Earth files.com 662 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:27,399 her own radio program with John 663 00:34:32,580 --> 00:34:30,370 Burroughs on kgr a she is on coast to 664 00:34:36,270 --> 00:34:32,590 coast am ancient alien since its first 665 00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:36,280 season and she has traveled - you ready 666 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:39,730 Linda Venezuela Peru Brazil England 667 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:41,290 Norway France Switzerland the 668 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:43,690 Netherlands Yugoslavia Turkey Ethiopia 669 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:46,330 Kenya Egypt Australia Japan Canada 670 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:49,510 Mexico the Yucatan and Puerto Rico and 671 00:34:53,490 --> 00:34:52,030 she's also got a new show on Gaia called 672 00:34:55,619 --> 00:34:53,500 truth hunters and I would like to 673 00:34:58,320 --> 00:34:55,629 welcome back to fade the black the one 674 00:34:58,920 --> 00:34:58,330 and only Linda Moulton Howe Linda good 675 00:35:02,760 --> 00:34:58,930 evening 676 00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:02,770 hey Jimmy thank you and I'm glad that we 677 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:05,590 can focus some attention on the strange 678 00:35:12,950 --> 00:35:08,290 story this being now the twelfth night 679 00:35:15,870 --> 00:35:12,960 from September 6 when the very first 680 00:35:19,620 --> 00:35:15,880 stories where most of us were not aware 681 00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:19,630 because this was a creeping story this 682 00:35:23,130 --> 00:35:22,150 started with the FBI 683 00:35:26,580 --> 00:35:23,140 coming in 684 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:26,590 September 6th closing down the National 685 00:35:31,950 --> 00:35:29,530 Solar Observatory at sunspot that sits 686 00:35:34,890 --> 00:35:31,960 at nine thousand two hundred feet on 687 00:35:37,140 --> 00:35:34,900 Sacramento Peak up looking down onto 688 00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:37,150 White Sands and Holloman Air Force Base 689 00:35:44,580 --> 00:35:40,750 two highly sensitive areas in the United 690 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:44,590 States and by the 7th the 8th to 9th 691 00:35:51,150 --> 00:35:47,170 10th the 11th so we're going about a 692 00:35:53,790 --> 00:35:51,160 week it took a week for rumors to start 693 00:35:56,910 --> 00:35:53,800 penetrating the public psyche first in 694 00:36:00,690 --> 00:35:56,920 social media and then starting in emails 695 00:36:03,210 --> 00:36:00,700 and on the 12th one of the most 696 00:36:05,220 --> 00:36:03,220 interesting things as background to 697 00:36:08,910 --> 00:36:05,230 where we're headed with what's happening 698 00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:08,920 now is what the Otero County Sheriff 699 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:12,750 said to the local Alamogordo newspaper 700 00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:15,910 about the fact that he knew that the FBI 701 00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:18,730 had come in and closed down the 702 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:20,980 observatory and there were rumors that 703 00:36:25,890 --> 00:36:23,950 they had closed down the post office but 704 00:36:27,900 --> 00:36:25,900 there now is great controversy about 705 00:36:30,330 --> 00:36:27,910 whether it had already been closed down 706 00:36:32,790 --> 00:36:30,340 for some other reason before the FBI 707 00:36:35,540 --> 00:36:32,800 closed down the observatory another one 708 00:36:40,740 --> 00:36:35,550 of those moving factors but nevertheless 709 00:36:45,710 --> 00:36:40,750 here is what the Otero County Sheriff 710 00:36:50,030 --> 00:36:45,720 Bennie House had to say to the media on 711 00:36:53,250 --> 00:36:50,040 around the 12th of September a week ago 712 00:36:55,620 --> 00:36:53,260 quote the FBI is refusing to tell us 713 00:36:57,510 --> 00:36:55,630 what's going on we've got people up 714 00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:57,520 there at Sun SPOT that requested us to 715 00:37:03,330 --> 00:37:01,270 stand by while they evacuated nobody 716 00:37:06,390 --> 00:37:03,340 would really elaborate on any of the 717 00:37:09,330 --> 00:37:06,400 circumstances as to why the FBI were up 718 00:37:12,330 --> 00:37:09,340 there what their purpose was nobody will 719 00:37:15,030 --> 00:37:12,340 say but for the FBI to get involved that 720 00:37:17,070 --> 00:37:15,040 quick and be so secretive about it there 721 00:37:20,190 --> 00:37:17,080 was a lot of stuff going on there was a 722 00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:20,200 Black Hawk helicopter this is the 723 00:37:26,850 --> 00:37:23,070 sheriff now a bunch of people around 724 00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:26,860 antennas and work crews on towers but 725 00:37:32,070 --> 00:37:29,710 nobody would tell us anything meaning 726 00:37:35,190 --> 00:37:32,080 the Sheriff's Office they wanted the FBI 727 00:37:36,810 --> 00:37:35,200 wanted the sheriff there while they were 728 00:37:39,150 --> 00:37:36,820 shutting it down but they would 729 00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:39,160 even tell the sheriff what was going on 730 00:37:44,310 --> 00:37:42,130 the sheriff continued they wanted us up 731 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:44,320 there to help evacuate but nobody would 732 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:46,990 tell us anything we went up there and 733 00:37:51,630 --> 00:37:49,270 everything was no threat 734 00:37:53,850 --> 00:37:51,640 nobody would identify any specific 735 00:37:56,670 --> 00:37:53,860 threat we hung out for a little while 736 00:37:59,700 --> 00:37:56,680 when we left no reason for us to be 737 00:38:03,960 --> 00:37:59,710 there nobody would tell us what we were 738 00:38:08,700 --> 00:38:03,970 supposed to be watching okay now that 739 00:38:13,740 --> 00:38:08,710 was the sheriff when you jump to what it 740 00:38:17,700 --> 00:38:13,750 was that the what's called the aura this 741 00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:17,710 is the Association for research in 742 00:38:25,610 --> 00:38:20,110 astronomy that is supposed to have 743 00:38:30,150 --> 00:38:25,620 managed the observatory and the only 744 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:30,160 quote that they put out back then at 745 00:38:38,850 --> 00:38:33,970 that time was saying something that was 746 00:38:42,330 --> 00:38:38,860 like this is only a security issue and 747 00:38:46,170 --> 00:38:42,340 they kept repeating the words a security 748 00:38:48,770 --> 00:38:46,180 issue and that was all that reached out 749 00:38:52,070 --> 00:38:48,780 from aura and people were so frustrated 750 00:38:55,190 --> 00:38:52,080 because they weren't getting any 751 00:38:58,500 --> 00:38:55,200 specific information and that's when 752 00:39:00,840 --> 00:38:58,510 within a very short period of time after 753 00:39:04,410 --> 00:39:00,850 aura put out I know 754 00:39:06,630 --> 00:39:04,420 no-nothing press release that here I 755 00:39:08,790 --> 00:39:06,640 have it quote the association of 756 00:39:12,620 --> 00:39:08,800 universities for research and astronomy 757 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:12,630 who manages the facility is addressing a 758 00:39:18,860 --> 00:39:16,210 security issue at this time we have 759 00:39:21,150 --> 00:39:18,870 decided to vacate the facility as 760 00:39:23,490 --> 00:39:21,160 precautionary measure it was our 761 00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:23,500 decision to evacuate the facility and 762 00:39:30,780 --> 00:39:26,290 that was the fulsome press release back 763 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:30,790 then okay so now why this started 764 00:39:40,470 --> 00:39:34,330 becoming the International story that it 765 00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:40,480 did is because they after that list 766 00:39:48,660 --> 00:39:44,890 within probably a day I started getting 767 00:39:50,670 --> 00:39:48,670 emails coming from all over the world 768 00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:50,680 literally 769 00:39:56,610 --> 00:39:55,030 that half-a-dozen solar observatories in 770 00:39:59,130 --> 00:39:56,620 both the northern in the southern 771 00:40:01,560 --> 00:39:59,140 hemisphere had been shut down it was a 772 00:40:04,590 --> 00:40:01,570 conspiracy something was happening on 773 00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:04,600 the Sun that the world was not supposed 774 00:40:11,850 --> 00:40:09,130 to see and I'm reading these emails and 775 00:40:16,050 --> 00:40:11,860 thinking number one if something's 776 00:40:19,110 --> 00:40:16,060 happening on the Sun if you black out 777 00:40:21,210 --> 00:40:19,120 six observatories on the earth it 778 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:21,220 doesn't mean anything there are over a 779 00:40:25,890 --> 00:40:24,250 thousand there would be all kinds of 780 00:40:29,610 --> 00:40:25,900 telescopes that would be focused on 781 00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:29,620 something shutting down six it was it 782 00:40:35,070 --> 00:40:32,230 didn't make any sense so I asked my 783 00:40:38,550 --> 00:40:35,080 colleague Peter Levin des if he would do 784 00:40:41,820 --> 00:40:38,560 some checking on what was the state of 785 00:40:43,310 --> 00:40:41,830 solar observatories on planet earth in 786 00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:43,320 the northern and the southern 787 00:40:52,370 --> 00:40:48,550 hemispheres on September 12 and he went 788 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:52,380 through and sent me direct quotes from 789 00:40:57,570 --> 00:40:55,090 six seven eight of the solar 790 00:41:00,710 --> 00:40:57,580 observatories there was not a single one 791 00:41:05,310 --> 00:41:00,720 where there was any kind of a problem 792 00:41:08,100 --> 00:41:05,320 except that noted at sunspot New Mexico 793 00:41:12,030 --> 00:41:08,110 where the FBI had closed it down 794 00:41:16,050 --> 00:41:12,040 for security reasons now by that time 795 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:16,060 that night I started receiving a bunch 796 00:41:23,850 --> 00:41:20,890 of there are 800 UFOs parked around the 797 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:23,860 Sun and the world is trying to keep 798 00:41:29,340 --> 00:41:26,290 people from seeing it and it got crazier 799 00:41:33,090 --> 00:41:29,350 and crazier and it was clearly people 800 00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:33,100 taking advantage of a story that was 801 00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:36,910 beginning to run with rapid legs and 802 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:39,850 make hysterical headlines so that they 803 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:42,250 could make some money on the clicks to 804 00:41:45,390 --> 00:41:43,810 their websites there's no question that 805 00:41:48,300 --> 00:41:45,400 that is what started happening with 806 00:41:50,940 --> 00:41:48,310 those crazy headlines well let's jump 807 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:50,950 back to a reality check of what were 808 00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:53,770 some of the interesting emails that 809 00:41:59,670 --> 00:41:56,110 might have something to do with what 810 00:42:01,740 --> 00:41:59,680 actually occurred that had the FBI come 811 00:42:03,910 --> 00:42:01,750 in on September 6 here is what I'm 812 00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:03,920 reading directly 813 00:42:09,430 --> 00:42:06,710 I heard this theory that some days 814 00:42:13,990 --> 00:42:09,440 before the closing of the observatory on 815 00:42:17,289 --> 00:42:14,000 September 6 a person got mad at the 816 00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:17,299 observatory and possibly made threats to 817 00:42:23,140 --> 00:42:19,730 them because the observatory was going 818 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:23,150 to be shut down this guy was concerned 819 00:42:28,059 --> 00:42:25,910 about jobs that would be lost because of 820 00:42:31,089 --> 00:42:28,069 all the business the observatory brought 821 00:42:35,140 --> 00:42:31,099 to this small town as a footnote on a 822 00:42:39,069 --> 00:42:35,150 yearly basis in terms of a census for 823 00:42:42,069 --> 00:42:39,079 sunspot New Mexico the number is seven 824 00:42:44,140 --> 00:42:42,079 zero on the census and so those would be 825 00:42:47,650 --> 00:42:44,150 probably just people working at the 826 00:42:50,170 --> 00:42:47,660 observatory and what when as I read this 827 00:42:52,870 --> 00:42:50,180 thinking and another email came and said 828 00:42:55,299 --> 00:42:52,880 I have I live in this area and I heard 829 00:42:57,819 --> 00:42:55,309 there was a bomb threat at the 830 00:43:03,280 --> 00:42:57,829 observatory which sounded like this 831 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:03,290 other email now the here again is this 832 00:43:09,130 --> 00:43:06,530 rationale if there was somebody who was 833 00:43:11,829 --> 00:43:09,140 upset that the observatory was going to 834 00:43:13,270 --> 00:43:11,839 be closed down and no 70 jobs would have 835 00:43:16,690 --> 00:43:13,280 to go someplace else 836 00:43:18,910 --> 00:43:16,700 why would they blow up or threaten to 837 00:43:21,579 --> 00:43:18,920 blow up the very institution that they 838 00:43:24,220 --> 00:43:21,589 are arguing that they want to see stay 839 00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:24,230 there for jobs and this is the way this 840 00:43:29,470 --> 00:43:26,270 story has gone turning right turning 841 00:43:32,890 --> 00:43:29,480 left turning upside down nothing really 842 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:32,900 really making sense and then when you 843 00:43:42,819 --> 00:43:39,290 get to yesterday at 5:30 p.m. I got the 844 00:43:44,410 --> 00:43:42,829 release from aura the Association of 845 00:43:47,170 --> 00:43:44,420 universities for research in astronomy 846 00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:47,180 they're based in Washington DC this is 847 00:43:53,319 --> 00:43:50,720 the only second comment that they have 848 00:43:55,390 --> 00:43:53,329 made since the very first one on 849 00:43:58,329 --> 00:43:55,400 September 6 which didn't say anything 850 00:44:00,940 --> 00:43:58,339 this is much longer and I think it is 851 00:44:04,450 --> 00:44:00,950 worth at least going into some of it 852 00:44:08,109 --> 00:44:04,460 because this is the current official 853 00:44:10,630 --> 00:44:08,119 authority and then we'll talk about the 854 00:44:13,059 --> 00:44:10,640 people who are up there looking at the 855 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:13,069 entire site through drones and walking 856 00:44:20,890 --> 00:44:17,330 around today but here is as of 5:30 p.m. 857 00:44:24,190 --> 00:44:20,900 mountain time yesterday Sunday this is 858 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:24,200 what came to me at Earth files.com 859 00:44:31,300 --> 00:44:28,370 in an email quote sunspot Solar 860 00:44:34,570 --> 00:44:31,310 Observatory is transitioning back to 861 00:44:37,690 --> 00:44:34,580 regular operations as of September 17th 862 00:44:41,290 --> 00:44:37,700 and that would be after being closed for 863 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:41,300 12 days from September 6 and then it 864 00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:44,450 says quote on September 6 the 865 00:44:48,850 --> 00:44:46,280 association of universities for research 866 00:44:52,210 --> 00:44:48,860 in astronomy aura and the National 867 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:52,220 Science Foundation NSF made the decision 868 00:44:56,980 --> 00:44:54,650 to temporarily vacate the sunspots solar 869 00:45:00,430 --> 00:44:56,990 observatory at Sacramento peak New 870 00:45:03,850 --> 00:45:00,440 Mexico as a precautionary measure while 871 00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:03,860 addressing a security issue the facility 872 00:45:09,340 --> 00:45:06,620 closed down in an orderly fashion and is 873 00:45:11,410 --> 00:45:09,350 now reopening the residents that vacated 874 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:11,420 their homes will be returning to the 875 00:45:17,260 --> 00:45:14,330 site and all employees will return to 876 00:45:20,890 --> 00:45:17,270 work this week Ora has been cooperating 877 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:20,900 with and ongoing this is quote an 878 00:45:28,540 --> 00:45:25,090 ongoing law enforcement investigation of 879 00:45:31,930 --> 00:45:28,550 criminal activity that occurred at 880 00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:31,940 Sacramento peak and they occurred that 881 00:45:38,620 --> 00:45:35,450 occurred means something specific that 882 00:45:41,860 --> 00:45:38,630 is not stated and a criminal activity 883 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:41,870 that occurred at Sacramento peak during 884 00:45:48,190 --> 00:45:44,450 this time we became concerned that a 885 00:45:51,460 --> 00:45:48,200 suspect in the investigation potentially 886 00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:51,470 posed a threat to the safety of local 887 00:45:56,950 --> 00:45:54,410 staff and residents for this reason or a 888 00:45:58,840 --> 00:45:56,960 temporarily vacated the facility and 889 00:46:03,130 --> 00:45:58,850 seized science activities at this 890 00:46:06,790 --> 00:46:03,140 location in that threat the bomb threat 891 00:46:09,370 --> 00:46:06,800 or the potential attack in those two 892 00:46:12,370 --> 00:46:09,380 emails that I read from just a few 893 00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:12,380 minutes ago this does not go into detail 894 00:46:17,890 --> 00:46:15,410 but it continues the decision to vacate 895 00:46:20,500 --> 00:46:17,900 was based on the logistical challenges 896 00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:20,510 associated with protecting personnel at 897 00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:23,050 such a remote location again it's at 898 00:46:29,380 --> 00:46:27,130 9,200 feet on Sacramento Peak the most 899 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:29,390 population that is supposed to be there 900 00:46:34,180 --> 00:46:31,130 year-round is 7 0 901 00:46:35,860 --> 00:46:34,190 seventy it overlooks the vast and 902 00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:35,870 important of White Sands Missile Range 903 00:46:43,950 --> 00:46:39,650 and further the Holloman Air Force Base 904 00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:43,960 and it continues quote and the need for 905 00:46:49,570 --> 00:46:46,670 expeditious response that means quick 906 00:46:53,230 --> 00:46:49,580 fast and effective for expeditious 907 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:53,240 response to the potential threat or I 908 00:46:58,060 --> 00:46:55,610 determined that moving the small number 909 00:47:00,100 --> 00:46:58,070 of on-site staff and residents off the 910 00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:00,110 mountain was the most prudent and 911 00:47:04,660 --> 00:47:01,850 effective action to ensure their safety 912 00:47:07,060 --> 00:47:04,670 in light of recent developments in the 913 00:47:09,580 --> 00:47:07,070 investigation we have determined there 914 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:09,590 is no risk to staff in sunspots solar 915 00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:12,290 observatory is transitioning back to 916 00:47:18,310 --> 00:47:15,850 regular operations as of September 17th 917 00:47:20,500 --> 00:47:18,320 given the significant amount of 918 00:47:23,710 --> 00:47:20,510 publicity the temporary closure has 919 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:23,720 generated and the consequent expectation 920 00:47:29,620 --> 00:47:26,570 of an unusual number of visitors to the 921 00:47:32,290 --> 00:47:29,630 site we are temporarily engaging a 922 00:47:34,930 --> 00:47:32,300 security service while the facility 923 00:47:38,490 --> 00:47:34,940 returns to a normal working environment 924 00:47:41,290 --> 00:47:38,500 well here Jimmy my question would be why 925 00:47:44,710 --> 00:47:41,300 didn't aura and the National Science 926 00:47:47,980 --> 00:47:44,720 Foundation and the University of New 927 00:47:51,010 --> 00:47:47,990 Mexico State University why didn't they 928 00:47:54,190 --> 00:47:51,020 say all of this back on September 6 929 00:47:56,170 --> 00:47:54,200 that's right that's right that's the 930 00:48:00,250 --> 00:47:56,180 bits one of the biggest questions of all 931 00:48:03,460 --> 00:48:00,260 yeah exactly and they've had 12 days to 932 00:48:09,310 --> 00:48:03,470 figure out this press release while all 933 00:48:13,860 --> 00:48:09,320 of these click money operations 800 UF I 934 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:13,870 was parked around the Sun if six solar 935 00:48:20,020 --> 00:48:17,210 observatories more closing down around 936 00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:20,030 the world because something that I mean 937 00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:21,440 it was it was crazy 938 00:48:27,310 --> 00:48:25,190 and actually to credible journalists who 939 00:48:30,550 --> 00:48:27,320 work hard trying to get the pressure of 940 00:48:33,820 --> 00:48:30,560 fact that is really irritating it's 941 00:48:38,140 --> 00:48:33,830 angering because what's happening now 942 00:48:40,870 --> 00:48:38,150 this story proves it that we are have 943 00:48:43,630 --> 00:48:40,880 entered an age I think of it now that 944 00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:43,640 the web once upon a time was really 945 00:48:46,690 --> 00:48:44,480 helpful in 946 00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:46,700 search it's now being manipulated 947 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:48,770 politically in every other way sort of 948 00:48:54,099 --> 00:48:51,170 like a cesspool that when you get into 949 00:48:57,310 --> 00:48:54,109 it you have to work overtime just trying 950 00:49:00,340 --> 00:48:57,320 to find out what is fact on the web 951 00:49:03,580 --> 00:49:00,350 because so much of it now is abused 952 00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:03,590 misused and manipulated to generate 953 00:49:09,580 --> 00:49:06,770 money through clicks on sensational 954 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:09,590 titles that have absolutely no vetting 955 00:49:15,220 --> 00:49:11,810 nothing behind them and one of the 956 00:49:18,220 --> 00:49:15,230 shocking I'm going to say promoters of 957 00:49:20,170 --> 00:49:18,230 the idea that Observatory solar 958 00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:20,180 observatories would be closed down 959 00:49:25,180 --> 00:49:23,090 around the world to keep the world from 960 00:49:26,349 --> 00:49:25,190 seeing something on the Sun completely 961 00:49:29,740 --> 00:49:26,359 irrational 962 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:29,750 but that was pushed by The Drudge Report 963 00:49:36,430 --> 00:49:32,930 there was no vetting no investigation it 964 00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:36,440 was rip and paste just put up stuff and 965 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:39,170 then Drudge would have the influence of 966 00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:41,330 multiplying the number of people who 967 00:49:45,849 --> 00:49:43,660 would be then assuming that 968 00:49:48,130 --> 00:49:45,859 observatories were being closed down 969 00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:48,140 around the planet did it have something 970 00:49:53,859 --> 00:49:51,710 to do with 800 UFOs Park but I mean it 971 00:49:57,760 --> 00:49:53,869 was crazy it was insane it was 972 00:49:59,980 --> 00:49:57,770 frustrating and at earthfiles on the 973 00:50:03,640 --> 00:49:59,990 twelve because I do my earthfiles 974 00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:03,650 YouTube channel live report every 975 00:50:10,510 --> 00:50:07,369 Wednesday night I was able to with the 976 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:10,520 help of Peter Levin des research to post 977 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:13,850 the same named observatories that have 978 00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:15,770 been on Drudge and at other websites 979 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:18,710 with the comments that anybody could go 980 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:21,530 to any website with any solar 981 00:50:26,830 --> 00:50:25,010 observatory or any any telescope you can 982 00:50:29,410 --> 00:50:26,840 do that yourself you can type in a 983 00:50:31,890 --> 00:50:29,420 search you can put in a title you can go 984 00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:31,900 you can read about the status of the 985 00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:34,730 observatory which is what Peter did and 986 00:50:39,930 --> 00:50:38,240 then I put it together saying here there 987 00:50:42,370 --> 00:50:39,940 is nothing there are none of these 988 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:42,380 there's none of these observatories that 989 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:46,130 are down and this then was where the 990 00:50:51,820 --> 00:50:48,650 tide began turning from what I was 991 00:50:55,270 --> 00:50:51,830 seeing audiences and people started 992 00:50:57,849 --> 00:50:55,280 sending me hundreds of emails saying 993 00:51:01,059 --> 00:50:57,859 thank you for bring 994 00:51:04,660 --> 00:51:01,069 some pressure of fact to this story and 995 00:51:07,630 --> 00:51:04,670 as of today we far exceeded a hundred 996 00:51:10,599 --> 00:51:07,640 thousand views and I'm grateful because 997 00:51:14,949 --> 00:51:10,609 it means that what not all is lost 998 00:51:17,949 --> 00:51:14,959 if you do try to do investigation and 999 00:51:20,799 --> 00:51:17,959 you do try to report hard fact even if 1000 00:51:22,959 --> 00:51:20,809 we don't have the answer to what exactly 1001 00:51:25,989 --> 00:51:22,969 this criminal activity is that the FBI 1002 00:51:28,859 --> 00:51:25,999 closed this down we at least have been 1003 00:51:31,539 --> 00:51:28,869 able to eliminate that there was no 1004 00:51:34,269 --> 00:51:31,549 population of solar observatories around 1005 00:51:37,870 --> 00:51:34,279 the world that were closed down that 1006 00:51:39,609 --> 00:51:37,880 there were no objects around the Sun 1007 00:51:41,559 --> 00:51:39,619 that was being done by people who were 1008 00:51:44,140 --> 00:51:41,569 using Photoshop and all kinds of crazy 1009 00:51:46,180 --> 00:51:44,150 things to generate those quick monies 1010 00:51:49,359 --> 00:51:46,190 and so what are we left with 1011 00:51:52,809 --> 00:51:49,369 tonight on the 17th of September on 1012 00:51:55,449 --> 00:51:52,819 Monday twelve full days later we are 1013 00:51:59,769 --> 00:51:55,459 left with this press release which ends 1014 00:52:03,489 --> 00:51:59,779 with this paragraph quote we recognize 1015 00:52:06,910 --> 00:52:03,499 that the lack of communications while 1016 00:52:10,689 --> 00:52:06,920 the facility was vacated was concerning 1017 00:52:13,259 --> 00:52:10,699 and frustrating for some however our 1018 00:52:17,349 --> 00:52:13,269 desire to provide additional information 1019 00:52:20,620 --> 00:52:17,359 had to be balanced against the risk that 1020 00:52:25,890 --> 00:52:20,630 if spread at the time the news would 1021 00:52:29,109 --> 00:52:25,900 alert the suspect and impede the law 1022 00:52:31,839 --> 00:52:29,119 enforcement investigation that was a 1023 00:52:35,229 --> 00:52:31,849 risk we could not take close quote and 1024 00:52:37,569 --> 00:52:35,239 in that last paragraph it's like they 1025 00:52:39,910 --> 00:52:37,579 almost pull the rug out from under 1026 00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:39,920 everything else preceding they are 1027 00:52:46,209 --> 00:52:42,319 basically saying that whatever this is 1028 00:52:50,170 --> 00:52:46,219 with a suspect criminal activity it has 1029 00:52:54,249 --> 00:52:50,180 still not been explained at any level 1030 00:52:56,949 --> 00:52:54,259 what is this criminal activity well I 1031 00:52:59,049 --> 00:52:56,959 have news on that so I'll help you out 1032 00:53:02,140 --> 00:52:59,059 on that right now but this is it you 1033 00:53:05,769 --> 00:53:02,150 bring up one of the craziest points 1034 00:53:08,019 --> 00:53:05,779 about this press release here how are 1035 00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:08,029 they trying to keep this quiet from the 1036 00:53:16,049 --> 00:53:10,910 suspect with friggin blackhawk 1037 00:53:23,710 --> 00:53:20,109 what kind of press release is that then 1038 00:53:27,220 --> 00:53:23,720 but everybody when that sheriff who is a 1039 00:53:29,980 --> 00:53:27,230 credible guy was frustrated that meant 1040 00:53:33,010 --> 00:53:29,990 that everybody else in the media myself 1041 00:53:37,329 --> 00:53:33,020 included says something weird is going 1042 00:53:39,609 --> 00:53:37,339 on here and then why didn't NSF 1043 00:53:43,120 --> 00:53:39,619 why didn't aura step up to the plate 1044 00:53:45,130 --> 00:53:43,130 exactly then and explain and this press 1045 00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:45,140 release even though it's better Jimmy 1046 00:53:51,609 --> 00:53:49,010 it's still it is frustrating it makes it 1047 00:53:53,559 --> 00:53:51,619 sound so serious and it doesn't explain 1048 00:53:55,950 --> 00:53:53,569 anything okay so this is what I've got 1049 00:54:01,779 --> 00:53:55,960 this is breaking right before the show 1050 00:54:05,829 --> 00:54:01,789 is that there was $15,000 worth of 1051 00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,839 communication equipment that was stolen 1052 00:54:13,140 --> 00:54:08,319 up there from one of the employees and 1053 00:54:15,789 --> 00:54:13,150 was taken out into the market it was not 1054 00:54:19,329 --> 00:54:15,799 computer equipment but it was very 1055 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:19,339 specific communication equipment now 1056 00:54:23,260 --> 00:54:21,410 there's that part of it and that this 1057 00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:23,270 specific person that was doing this 1058 00:54:31,630 --> 00:54:26,690 theft was was doing this for for quite a 1059 00:54:35,410 --> 00:54:31,640 while and it was easy to steal gear from 1060 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:35,420 up there and turn around and sell it for 1061 00:54:40,390 --> 00:54:37,970 profit so there there's that part now 1062 00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:40,400 that mate let's let's stop for a second 1063 00:54:44,380 --> 00:54:43,430 Linda and suppose that this is actually 1064 00:54:47,170 --> 00:54:44,390 what happened 1065 00:54:50,380 --> 00:54:47,180 then why the evacuation and why was 1066 00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:50,390 silence why not arrest this guy and not 1067 00:54:54,549 --> 00:54:52,910 freak out you know half of the planet 1068 00:54:57,670 --> 00:54:54,559 like they did and then there was one 1069 00:55:01,359 --> 00:54:57,680 yes and Jimmy Jimmy just to reinforce 1070 00:55:05,319 --> 00:55:01,369 and drive a nail home stolen equipment 1071 00:55:06,510 --> 00:55:05,329 already after the fact would not justify 1072 00:55:10,599 --> 00:55:06,520 the FBI 1073 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:10,609 closing down and evacuating evacuating 1074 00:55:15,940 --> 00:55:13,609 makes the bottom threat idea possibly as 1075 00:55:18,490 --> 00:55:15,950 part of this story for real yeah it's a 1076 00:55:20,410 --> 00:55:18,500 cover story no doubt there's we don't 1077 00:55:22,670 --> 00:55:20,420 we're gonna find out hopefully 1078 00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,680 eventually what actually won't when 1079 00:55:27,980 --> 00:55:25,200 but we all know by the way that they 1080 00:55:31,010 --> 00:55:27,990 handled it with the sheriff and with 1081 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:31,020 with the evacuation and the dead silence 1082 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:33,930 with the media that we didn't know if it 1083 00:55:37,850 --> 00:55:36,090 was environmental Linda we didn't know 1084 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:37,860 if there was a threat to the community 1085 00:55:42,020 --> 00:55:40,650 or to the wildlife was there some kind 1086 00:55:44,540 --> 00:55:42,030 of radiation leak we didn't know 1087 00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:44,550 anything right or was it et right we 1088 00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:49,130 didn't know anything or in the past week 1089 00:55:56,090 --> 00:55:54,480 UFO reports over Mount Taylor that's you 1090 00:56:00,380 --> 00:55:56,100 know that's going toward the Roswell 1091 00:56:03,740 --> 00:56:00,390 region and if you say that Sacramento 1092 00:56:06,380 --> 00:56:03,750 Peak overlooks white sands Holloman in 1093 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:06,390 that general area that historically for 1094 00:56:12,260 --> 00:56:08,970 at least 70 years has said some 1095 00:56:15,350 --> 00:56:12,270 association with UFOs you can see that 1096 00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:15,360 any headline about the observatory being 1097 00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:18,090 closed down with that explanation that 1098 00:56:21,830 --> 00:56:19,620 you're going to have a percentage that 1099 00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:21,840 are going to jump to that which then 1100 00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:25,520 went wild with the jerry-rigged 1101 00:56:31,940 --> 00:56:29,130 photos or images that were phony having 1102 00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:31,950 to do with UFOs and it just shows you if 1103 00:56:40,180 --> 00:56:36,180 it was stealing equipment and selling it 1104 00:56:44,450 --> 00:56:40,190 it still does not explain the evacuation 1105 00:56:48,470 --> 00:56:44,460 taking everybody out and having security 1106 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:48,480 there today why would it still be weird 1107 00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:50,850 I talked with he asked me to call him 1108 00:56:57,590 --> 00:56:54,270 Paul M you know him yes he is a drone 1109 00:57:01,970 --> 00:56:57,600 pilot he was good enough to go there 1110 00:57:04,670 --> 00:57:01,980 today and I made some notes about some 1111 00:57:07,490 --> 00:57:04,680 of the things that he had to say it's 1112 00:57:12,220 --> 00:57:07,500 very interesting and here is one of the 1113 00:57:15,710 --> 00:57:12,230 most interesting of all some people 1114 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:15,720 appear he talked with him appear to have 1115 00:57:24,910 --> 00:57:21,210 been silenced by NDA's non-disclosure 1116 00:57:27,830 --> 00:57:24,920 agreement he spoke to a solar 1117 00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:27,840 observatory visitor this afternoon off 1118 00:57:35,320 --> 00:57:31,710 the record who said they had signed a 1119 00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:35,330 non-disclosure form and that they were 1120 00:57:39,860 --> 00:57:36,450 compensated 1121 00:57:42,860 --> 00:57:39,870 enough money where they would not want 1122 00:57:45,530 --> 00:57:42,870 to talk let's take a break right here 1123 00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:45,540 we've got more to talk about and I know 1124 00:57:53,030 --> 00:57:49,370 that you've seen the footage Paul and 1125 00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:53,040 and ransom sent me the drone footage 1126 00:57:57,890 --> 00:57:55,530 that they just shot and I look at that 1127 00:58:01,100 --> 00:57:57,900 we'll talk about that when we come back 1128 00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:01,110 this is a you know what's funny as I 1129 00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:03,510 roll into the music here Linda this is a 1130 00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:05,910 story that is now permanently cemented 1131 00:58:11,540 --> 00:58:09,750 into the UFO community forever I mean 1132 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:11,550 this is something working to go back and 1133 00:58:23,090 --> 00:58:21,140 I think they completely blew it and and 1134 00:58:25,340 --> 00:58:23,100 we've 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01:02:55,349 --> 01:02:53,289 fade to black across the globe on the 1233 01:02:56,349 --> 01:02:55,359 game-changer radio network and the one 1234 01:02:58,330 --> 01:02:56,359 and only cage 1235 01:03:17,849 --> 01:02:58,340 are a radio the planet 1236 01:03:23,579 --> 01:03:20,759 all right welcome back fade to black I 1237 01:03:25,289 --> 01:03:23,589 am your host Jimmy Church our guest 1238 01:03:26,789 --> 01:03:25,299 tonight Linda Moulton Howe we're gonna 1239 01:03:29,489 --> 01:03:26,799 talk about a lot tonight but right now 1240 01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:29,499 we're discussing the closure of the 1241 01:03:36,059 --> 01:03:32,890 National Solar Observatory and sunspot 1242 01:03:37,499 --> 01:03:36,069 New Mexico and Linda okay now a couple 1243 01:03:41,219 --> 01:03:37,509 of things I want I want your thoughts 1244 01:03:46,380 --> 01:03:41,229 here a couple of really interesting 1245 01:03:48,329 --> 01:03:46,390 things stand out for me and as you know 1246 01:03:50,219 --> 01:03:48,339 Ransome Godwin went up there and and 1247 01:03:54,749 --> 01:03:50,229 took a walk through and shot this video 1248 01:03:57,779 --> 01:03:54,759 I interviewed ransom last week and what 1249 01:04:01,109 --> 01:03:57,789 he experienced and went through up there 1250 01:04:03,529 --> 01:04:01,119 all interesting three points number one 1251 01:04:06,390 --> 01:04:03,539 when he pulled up to the police tape a 1252 01:04:09,209 --> 01:04:06,400 sheriff the sheriff the Attero County 1253 01:04:14,339 --> 01:04:09,219 Sheriff was there and it just said yo 1254 01:04:19,259 --> 01:04:14,349 what's up and split left him left him at 1255 01:04:21,690 --> 01:04:19,269 the gate to walk onto the property now I 1256 01:04:23,549 --> 01:04:21,700 that that that right there I don't know 1257 01:04:25,769 --> 01:04:23,559 what the answers are but I don't know 1258 01:04:29,660 --> 01:04:25,779 about you but a sheriff has never let me 1259 01:04:32,849 --> 01:04:29,670 get away with stuff right okay so that 1260 01:04:35,430 --> 01:04:32,859 okay welcome back to that I'm gonna give 1261 01:04:38,099 --> 01:04:35,440 you my three points the second one that 1262 01:04:41,339 --> 01:04:38,109 I thought was extremely interesting was 1263 01:04:44,489 --> 01:04:41,349 that the workshop for the cars up there 1264 01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:44,499 and the trucks the garage doors were 1265 01:04:48,359 --> 01:04:46,809 left open and all of the tools and the 1266 01:04:49,859 --> 01:04:48,369 mechanics that were all left out in the 1267 01:04:53,099 --> 01:04:49,869 open anybody could have gone in and 1268 01:04:56,099 --> 01:04:53,109 vandalized it that I found strange the 1269 01:04:59,309 --> 01:04:56,109 the third thing was they boarded up all 1270 01:05:01,739 --> 01:04:59,319 of the windows of the houses like they 1271 01:05:03,989 --> 01:05:01,749 were expecting a hurricane that was 1272 01:05:08,089 --> 01:05:03,999 strange and then the fourth thing that I 1273 01:05:12,989 --> 01:05:08,099 just find trippy as all get-out is that 1274 01:05:14,819 --> 01:05:12,999 he saw and it's on videotape and on top 1275 01:05:17,130 --> 01:05:14,829 of one of the trash cans in the 1276 01:05:19,439 --> 01:05:17,140 sanitized hallway that was just mopped 1277 01:05:22,559 --> 01:05:19,449 and cleaned up in the windows clean on 1278 01:05:27,299 --> 01:05:22,569 the top of the trash can is an x-files 1279 01:05:31,019 --> 01:05:27,309 DVD now wait if you're not trying to 1280 01:05:31,470 --> 01:05:31,029 mess with the public's mind there's it's 1281 01:05:33,930 --> 01:05:31,480 just 1282 01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:33,940 none of those four things right there 1283 01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:36,490 don't make any sense if the FBI is going 1284 01:05:40,290 --> 01:05:38,110 to go up there and evacuate and then 1285 01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:40,300 turn around and allow all of this to go 1286 01:05:49,020 --> 01:05:45,330 down and the contradiction between 1287 01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:49,030 having grudges open because that's what 1288 01:05:55,050 --> 01:05:51,610 Paul am also he told them all was there 1289 01:05:58,650 --> 01:05:55,060 yeah Paul yeah Paul is a friend of 1290 01:06:00,990 --> 01:05:58,660 ransoms and Paul was there today and 1291 01:06:04,130 --> 01:06:01,000 called and talked to me this afternoon 1292 01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:04,140 like at 3:00 p.m. not that long ago and 1293 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:08,410 he said I noticed that the residential 1294 01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:11,410 streets the houses all the windows are 1295 01:06:19,110 --> 01:06:14,560 still boarded up and that they had put 1296 01:06:21,570 --> 01:06:19,120 orange cones like orange coning off the 1297 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:21,580 residential houses with all of the woods 1298 01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:23,770 still boarding up the windows as you 1299 01:06:29,730 --> 01:06:25,450 said like you would do for a hurricane 1300 01:06:33,450 --> 01:06:29,740 and that the garages if the garages are 1301 01:06:35,940 --> 01:06:33,460 open to the world during a period of 1302 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:35,950 time when nobody is there that 1303 01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:37,810 contradicts the idea that they had 1304 01:06:42,330 --> 01:06:40,180 fifteen thousand dollars in computer 1305 01:06:43,370 --> 01:06:42,340 equipment that were stolen from the 1306 01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:43,380 observatory 1307 01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:46,810 none of this is making any logical sense 1308 01:06:53,490 --> 01:06:50,890 and the I heard about that Paul M and 1309 01:06:55,920 --> 01:06:53,500 ransom said that they they didn't know 1310 01:06:57,330 --> 01:06:55,930 whether to laugh or to think that 1311 01:07:00,600 --> 01:06:57,340 somebody was trying to send a signal 1312 01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:00,610 that the x-files DVD was on top of an 1313 01:07:06,330 --> 01:07:01,810 open trash can 1314 01:07:08,970 --> 01:07:06,340 well if any of this can be looked at and 1315 01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:08,980 tried to be analyzed given the fact that 1316 01:07:15,990 --> 01:07:13,170 today Paul M said it was still barren 1317 01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:16,000 empty like still like a ghost town 1318 01:07:20,730 --> 01:07:18,160 outside of the fact that there were some 1319 01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:20,740 people in the solar observatory he 1320 01:07:26,040 --> 01:07:22,810 walked in he saw them he said nobody 1321 01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:26,050 looked happy everybody was frowning one 1322 01:07:31,800 --> 01:07:28,960 security female guard came up to him and 1323 01:07:35,670 --> 01:07:31,810 said may I answer your questions and 1324 01:07:39,150 --> 01:07:35,680 when he said yeah what has happened here 1325 01:07:42,570 --> 01:07:39,160 why they said we cannot make comment so 1326 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:42,580 nothing really has changed and this is 1327 01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:44,610 highlighting the fact 1328 01:07:50,180 --> 01:07:47,310 that if the windows are boarded up that 1329 01:07:53,930 --> 01:07:50,190 they've added orange cones to separate 1330 01:07:58,640 --> 01:07:53,940 out the residential area if they trash 1331 01:08:01,070 --> 01:07:58,650 can are or the garage are open that 1332 01:08:03,980 --> 01:08:01,080 anybody could walk in and take that kind 1333 01:08:06,050 --> 01:08:03,990 of equipment where is the security that 1334 01:08:09,950 --> 01:08:06,060 you would think would be operational at 1335 01:08:11,780 --> 01:08:09,960 this observatory if $15,000 of computer 1336 01:08:14,390 --> 01:08:11,790 equipment have been stolen and they are 1337 01:08:18,650 --> 01:08:14,400 now concerned about the vulnerability of 1338 01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:18,660 the observatory yeah now see this Linda 1339 01:08:22,970 --> 01:08:20,850 you've been you've been doing this for a 1340 01:08:24,530 --> 01:08:22,980 long time you've been doing the some of 1341 01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:24,540 the most effective journalism and 1342 01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:27,120 research not only for our community but 1343 01:08:34,220 --> 01:08:31,650 in any genre of journalism and when you 1344 01:08:36,620 --> 01:08:34,230 hear all of this how many red flags are 1345 01:08:37,460 --> 01:08:36,630 just throwing up here for you to go well 1346 01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:37,470 wait a minute 1347 01:08:40,940 --> 01:08:39,540 somebody's yanking our chain here we're 1348 01:08:43,700 --> 01:08:40,950 just not getting the straight story 1349 01:08:47,180 --> 01:08:43,710 we're not getting the straight story and 1350 01:08:50,330 --> 01:08:47,190 one that sort of crept in around 1351 01:08:53,870 --> 01:08:50,340 September 12 kind of on the edges of 1352 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:53,880 things meaning there was an email here 1353 01:08:59,210 --> 01:08:56,010 you probably said nothing coherent but 1354 01:09:01,030 --> 01:08:59,220 it was suggesting that the FBI may have 1355 01:09:04,610 --> 01:09:01,040 been called in because there was a 1356 01:09:07,340 --> 01:09:04,620 Chinese spy that was working in the 1357 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:07,350 observatory and that they learned that 1358 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:10,250 computer equipment had been turned into 1359 01:09:17,660 --> 01:09:12,890 observation for the Chinese government 1360 01:09:20,030 --> 01:09:17,670 of White Sands at Holloman well that is 1361 01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:20,040 not proven I'm saying those are the 1362 01:09:25,030 --> 01:09:22,650 kinds of around the edges of the story 1363 01:09:28,370 --> 01:09:25,040 crept in the possibility of 1364 01:09:30,500 --> 01:09:28,380 international espionage and why I think 1365 01:09:35,590 --> 01:09:30,510 it's worth bringing up even though 1366 01:09:39,290 --> 01:09:35,600 nothing has been proven is that when you 1367 01:09:43,610 --> 01:09:39,300 consider the fact that the solar 1368 01:09:47,470 --> 01:09:43,620 observatory and white sands and Holloman 1369 01:09:50,450 --> 01:09:47,480 Air Force Base we do get international 1370 01:09:52,790 --> 01:09:50,460 scientists we get international people 1371 01:09:56,030 --> 01:09:52,800 and military that come in to these 1372 01:09:58,250 --> 01:09:56,040 sensitive areas the possibility that 1373 01:10:01,100 --> 01:09:58,260 something like the observatory 1374 01:10:04,879 --> 01:10:01,110 at nine thousand two hundred feet could 1375 01:10:08,419 --> 01:10:04,889 have been hacked into or turned into 1376 01:10:10,100 --> 01:10:08,429 some kind of an observation post so that 1377 01:10:13,669 --> 01:10:10,110 they could keep track of something at 1378 01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:13,679 White Sands and Holloman that is another 1379 01:10:19,850 --> 01:10:15,690 area that there hasn't been much 1380 01:10:23,299 --> 01:10:19,860 discussion about but it might be closer 1381 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:23,309 to a real truth and look at how 1382 01:10:28,850 --> 01:10:25,530 sensitive our government is to the idea 1383 01:10:32,899 --> 01:10:28,860 any international espionage now because 1384 01:10:35,990 --> 01:10:32,909 of all the Soviet stuff so I'm laying 1385 01:10:39,109 --> 01:10:36,000 that out there not as any other thing 1386 01:10:42,430 --> 01:10:39,119 but to say we have not had anybody 1387 01:10:44,839 --> 01:10:42,440 explain to us what possible 1388 01:10:48,859 --> 01:10:44,849 international sabotage could that 1389 01:10:52,850 --> 01:10:48,869 Observatory be misused because it is up 1390 01:10:55,100 --> 01:10:52,860 above such sensitive military areas and 1391 01:10:58,910 --> 01:10:55,110 so that's a question mark that hangs out 1392 01:11:02,000 --> 01:10:58,920 there and yet that still that would not 1393 01:11:04,879 --> 01:11:02,010 explain how garages would be left open 1394 01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:04,889 that anybody could walk into while they 1395 01:11:09,229 --> 01:11:06,690 boarded up windows and they're putting 1396 01:11:11,689 --> 01:11:09,239 orange cones at the houses yeah and and 1397 01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:11,699 to do all of that and and just put up 1398 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:15,510 some simple police tape and then anybody 1399 01:11:18,859 --> 01:11:17,250 that wanted to drive up the road and 1400 01:11:22,009 --> 01:11:18,869 walk out of the property could do so 1401 01:11:25,129 --> 01:11:22,019 it's it's a contradiction it's a paradox 1402 01:11:29,750 --> 01:11:25,139 actually it's like a real paradox and 1403 01:11:32,540 --> 01:11:29,760 it's okay now let's let's explore a 1404 01:11:35,629 --> 01:11:32,550 couple of other ideas here one of them 1405 01:11:37,669 --> 01:11:35,639 that you have been covering along with 1406 01:11:42,080 --> 01:11:37,679 myself for a while now our fast radio 1407 01:11:44,209 --> 01:11:42,090 bursts two days before the raid the big 1408 01:11:47,629 --> 01:11:44,219 announcement came about the repeater 1409 01:11:49,759 --> 01:11:47,639 right the repeater FSB that pops out 1410 01:11:52,850 --> 01:11:49,769 then there was some rumors the day 1411 01:11:55,790 --> 01:11:52,860 before of the closure that I was 1412 01:12:01,299 --> 01:11:55,800 following up with was that said he was 1413 01:12:03,790 --> 01:12:01,309 involved with there along with the other 1414 01:12:07,850 --> 01:12:03,800 scientific crew with the fast repeater 1415 01:12:10,790 --> 01:12:07,860 we're all tied into these observatories 1416 01:12:11,870 --> 01:12:10,800 in New Mexico is there a possibility 1417 01:12:15,740 --> 01:12:11,880 Linda 1418 01:12:17,840 --> 01:12:15,750 that this observatory or shared 1419 01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:17,850 information with another observatory 1420 01:12:24,260 --> 01:12:21,290 about picking up and detecting something 1421 01:12:26,450 --> 01:12:24,270 well I don't know about the last 1422 01:12:30,020 --> 01:12:26,460 question but I know a lot about the 1423 01:12:33,410 --> 01:12:30,030 first question the fast radio bursts is 1424 01:12:36,350 --> 01:12:33,420 a story that has been developing and 1425 01:12:40,100 --> 01:12:36,360 evolving for a decade not before and 1426 01:12:42,740 --> 01:12:40,110 that it's in the last year that I did an 1427 01:12:45,290 --> 01:12:42,750 interview with avi Loeb he is the 1428 01:12:48,830 --> 01:12:45,300 chairman of the Astronomy Department of 1429 01:12:51,919 --> 01:12:48,840 Harvard University he is on the board of 1430 01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:51,929 directors for star shot star shot is 1431 01:12:55,879 --> 01:12:54,210 this very exciting project I've done a 1432 01:12:58,280 --> 01:12:55,889 lot of work about this at Birth files 1433 01:12:59,540 --> 01:12:58,290 everything I'm saying now anybody who 1434 01:13:04,160 --> 01:12:59,550 would like to get in depth 1435 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:04,170 you just go to wws is calm in the search 1436 01:13:09,290 --> 01:13:07,050 you type in fast radio bursts and you 1437 01:13:12,439 --> 01:13:09,300 will see that many reports I have done 1438 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:12,449 about that type in star shot it's 1439 01:13:20,660 --> 01:13:16,770 usually all caps sta are sa chhoti I've 1440 01:13:23,709 --> 01:13:20,670 done a lot of work on that star shot was 1441 01:13:26,959 --> 01:13:23,719 funded about two years ago by the 1442 01:13:30,860 --> 01:13:26,969 Russian billionaire billionaire who now 1443 01:13:34,340 --> 01:13:30,870 lives in San Jose and he working with 1444 01:13:36,979 --> 01:13:34,350 Harvard working with other astronomy 1445 01:13:41,750 --> 01:13:36,989 departments their idea boils down to 1446 01:13:44,780 --> 01:13:41,760 this can we get lasers put together in a 1447 01:13:47,990 --> 01:13:44,790 bank that would be the propulsion system 1448 01:13:50,780 --> 01:13:48,000 for small craft it's two or three years 1449 01:13:54,290 --> 01:13:50,790 ago they were calling them wafer W a fer 1450 01:13:56,270 --> 01:13:54,300 wafer craft think of your iPhone imagine 1451 01:13:59,470 --> 01:13:56,280 that we are now going to start moving 1452 01:14:04,070 --> 01:13:59,480 into outer space in star shot by 1453 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:04,080 projecting iPhones that's a 20% 30% the 1454 01:14:10,490 --> 01:14:06,570 speed of light by the propulsion of 1455 01:14:13,280 --> 01:14:10,500 lasers light pushing at those iPhones 1456 01:14:17,870 --> 01:14:13,290 that will be protected by a small shield 1457 01:14:20,959 --> 01:14:17,880 and the big idea is that maybe in two 1458 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:20,969 years maybe three years we will start 1459 01:14:25,310 --> 01:14:23,130 one if there's a question about whether 1460 01:14:27,530 --> 01:14:25,320 we're going to launch from the earth 1461 01:14:29,150 --> 01:14:27,540 from the moon if we can get a launch 1462 01:14:31,760 --> 01:14:29,160 facility up on the moon we're not 1463 01:14:33,830 --> 01:14:31,770 fighting atmosphere but we would have to 1464 01:14:35,660 --> 01:14:33,840 get a facility on the moon so it may be 1465 01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:35,670 the launch will be from Earth through 1466 01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:38,400 the atmosphere first whatever happens 1467 01:14:43,940 --> 01:14:41,970 here is the goal if they can get one of 1468 01:14:47,900 --> 01:14:43,950 these we'll call them the iPhone type 1469 01:14:49,880 --> 01:14:47,910 wafer craft going at 20% the speed of 1470 01:14:53,300 --> 01:14:49,890 light and then in a few months they do 1471 01:14:55,580 --> 01:14:53,310 one at 30% and then next year maybe 40% 1472 01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:55,590 and that they start getting a whole 1473 01:15:02,210 --> 01:14:58,470 bunch of the small craft being propelled 1474 01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:02,220 by laser light going at these 1475 01:15:09,220 --> 01:15:05,010 percentages of the speed of light toward 1476 01:15:13,510 --> 01:15:09,230 Alpha Centauri Alpha Centauri is four 1477 01:15:16,520 --> 01:15:13,520 light-years from Earth going full-tilt 1478 01:15:20,630 --> 01:15:16,530 186,000 miles a second so if you're 1479 01:15:23,180 --> 01:15:20,640 going 30% or 50% let's take 50% it's 1480 01:15:25,970 --> 01:15:23,190 easier to calculate so you would add 1481 01:15:28,220 --> 01:15:25,980 another two years so you might be able 1482 01:15:30,530 --> 01:15:28,230 to get to Alpha Centauri in seven years 1483 01:15:32,900 --> 01:15:30,540 and then you might be able to get 1484 01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:32,910 photographs and then send them back to 1485 01:15:38,870 --> 01:15:35,130 earth if you could go 50% the speed of 1486 01:15:40,820 --> 01:15:38,880 light and the whole idea is that we're 1487 01:15:44,990 --> 01:15:40,830 getting away from any kind of 1488 01:15:49,550 --> 01:15:45,000 hydrocarbon propulsion heavy tank this 1489 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:49,560 would be light now IV lab is working 1490 01:15:54,410 --> 01:15:52,530 hard on star shot and I did a long 1491 01:15:56,510 --> 01:15:54,420 interview with him that is that 1492 01:15:58,880 --> 01:15:56,520 earthfiles you can still hear the mp3 1493 01:16:03,280 --> 01:15:58,890 it's fascinating interview just within 1494 01:16:07,970 --> 01:16:03,290 the past year and he prepared a paper 1495 01:16:11,210 --> 01:16:07,980 after analysis of up type ink to the 27 1496 01:16:13,640 --> 01:16:11,220 fast radio bursts and in his paper as 1497 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:13,650 the chair of the department of astronomy 1498 01:16:20,030 --> 01:16:17,610 at Harvard he proposes that we consider 1499 01:16:23,270 --> 01:16:20,040 this as the hypothesis for fast radio 1500 01:16:28,640 --> 01:16:23,280 bursts that they are the first evidence 1501 01:16:32,750 --> 01:16:28,650 of light speed transport in our universe 1502 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:32,760 mm-hmm the location is three billion 1503 01:16:42,660 --> 01:16:38,050 light-years from Earth in a small galaxy 1504 01:16:47,010 --> 01:16:42,670 a single galaxy is where some of these 1505 01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:47,020 repeaters have been so when you read the 1506 01:16:51,959 --> 01:16:50,110 paper that avi loved it as the chair of 1507 01:16:53,609 --> 01:16:51,969 the Astronomy Department and you listen 1508 01:16:57,359 --> 01:16:53,619 to that interview that I did with him at 1509 01:17:00,270 --> 01:16:57,369 Earth files.com you realize that whether 1510 01:17:02,580 --> 01:17:00,280 or not we as a world human family have 1511 01:17:04,919 --> 01:17:02,590 understood what's happening the 1512 01:17:07,620 --> 01:17:04,929 universities of this planet 1513 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:07,630 the advanced astrophysicists of this 1514 01:17:14,250 --> 01:17:11,010 planet they are already contemplating 1515 01:17:15,359 --> 01:17:14,260 working on plans how do we get off 1516 01:17:18,689 --> 01:17:15,369 planet Earth 1517 01:17:23,459 --> 01:17:18,699 how do we find exoplanets that might be 1518 01:17:26,129 --> 01:17:23,469 able to support life Mars is going to be 1519 01:17:30,060 --> 01:17:26,139 a project maybe Elon Musk will manage it 1520 01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:30,070 but we are already with large money 1521 01:17:36,750 --> 01:17:33,790 large universities large concepts we are 1522 01:17:39,540 --> 01:17:36,760 looking at ways we can get off this 1523 01:17:43,709 --> 01:17:39,550 planet and discover other places and 1524 01:17:46,589 --> 01:17:43,719 that becomes the exciting atmosphere in 1525 01:17:49,950 --> 01:17:46,599 which fast radio bursts are now being 1526 01:17:52,490 --> 01:17:49,960 discussed as the context that they're 1527 01:17:54,839 --> 01:17:52,500 they themselves might be proof of 1528 01:17:56,370 --> 01:17:54,849 advanced intelligence in this universe 1529 01:17:59,310 --> 01:17:56,380 three billion light years away and 1530 01:18:01,890 --> 01:17:59,320 that's through Harvard do you think that 1531 01:18:03,870 --> 01:18:01,900 because of and it reminds me of the 1532 01:18:06,959 --> 01:18:03,880 movie contact right this is almost 1533 01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:06,969 exactly how we would expect it to play 1534 01:18:09,899 --> 01:18:08,770 out if it actually happened right I'm 1535 01:18:11,819 --> 01:18:09,909 talking about the National Solar 1536 01:18:15,780 --> 01:18:11,829 Observatory and the feds coming in and 1537 01:18:18,450 --> 01:18:15,790 and shutting it down do you think that 1538 01:18:20,129 --> 01:18:18,460 all of these observatories around the 1539 01:18:22,470 --> 01:18:20,139 world all these astronomers know each 1540 01:18:25,620 --> 01:18:22,480 other they all communicate when they see 1541 01:18:28,589 --> 01:18:25,630 something whether it's some supernova or 1542 01:18:31,859 --> 01:18:28,599 they see that they contact their their 1543 01:18:33,870 --> 01:18:31,869 their friends to confirm what they are 1544 01:18:36,149 --> 01:18:33,880 seeing lock in on this what do you think 1545 01:18:38,129 --> 01:18:36,159 is this what it is is this a black hole 1546 01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:38,139 eating another black hole whatever right 1547 01:18:42,359 --> 01:18:40,510 do you think that there is the 1548 01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:42,369 possibility that they were communicating 1549 01:18:49,530 --> 01:18:46,570 about a fast radio bursts and what was 1550 01:18:51,130 --> 01:18:49,540 going down this week and maybe the feds 1551 01:18:52,900 --> 01:18:51,140 had to go in and sanitize 1552 01:18:55,420 --> 01:18:52,910 this place and then just use some crazy 1553 01:18:58,210 --> 01:18:55,430 cover story and that they went in and 1554 01:19:00,910 --> 01:18:58,220 and removed any evidence of any 1555 01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:00,920 communication well here's the problem 1556 01:19:07,330 --> 01:19:03,890 with that hypothesis there is absolutely 1557 01:19:12,120 --> 01:19:07,340 no indication of a threat of any kind 1558 01:19:15,340 --> 01:19:12,130 the fast radio bursts last less than 1559 01:19:20,530 --> 01:19:15,350 this is hard to believe they last less 1560 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:20,540 than 1/2 of a second but the energy from 1561 01:19:28,680 --> 01:19:24,010 these three billion light-years away is 1562 01:19:33,460 --> 01:19:28,690 equivalent to half a billion of our Suns 1563 01:19:35,320 --> 01:19:33,470 this is where the very first data as 1564 01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:35,330 scientists just couldn't believe what 1565 01:19:41,050 --> 01:19:38,210 they were looking at and there was one 1566 01:19:43,930 --> 01:19:41,060 paper that was presented about how a 1567 01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:43,940 fast radio bursts in less than half a 1568 01:19:51,450 --> 01:19:47,360 second emitted the amount of energy of 1569 01:19:54,490 --> 01:19:51,460 500 million of our Suns and there was no 1570 01:19:56,710 --> 01:19:54,500 afterglow that's him just 1571 01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:56,720 incomprehensible right how could there 1572 01:20:02,920 --> 01:19:59,600 be any kind of an energy surge like that 1573 01:20:06,330 --> 01:20:02,930 in half a second and no afterglow no 1574 01:20:09,040 --> 01:20:06,340 heat signature nothing left over well 1575 01:20:12,300 --> 01:20:09,050 depending upon what this advanced 1576 01:20:15,610 --> 01:20:12,310 technology is which is what caught 1577 01:20:18,970 --> 01:20:15,620 caught the attention of avi Loeb and 1578 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:18,980 others that's why he put together this 1579 01:20:23,500 --> 01:20:21,410 wonderful paper to read on the 1580 01:20:28,170 --> 01:20:23,510 hypothesis that this could be the very 1581 01:20:31,570 --> 01:20:28,180 first evidence of light speed technology 1582 01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:31,580 operating in such a way that we expect 1583 01:20:36,220 --> 01:20:34,130 after glows we expect that that much 1584 01:20:39,190 --> 01:20:36,230 energy would take something so massive 1585 01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:39,200 to produce well it does take massive 1586 01:20:45,850 --> 01:20:42,950 amounts to produce but we are thinking 1587 01:20:48,370 --> 01:20:45,860 in terms of earth we're not thinking in 1588 01:20:51,610 --> 01:20:48,380 terms of what's out there and that's 1589 01:20:54,100 --> 01:20:51,620 what's so exciting about the fast radio 1590 01:20:57,310 --> 01:20:54,110 bursts research right now know 1591 01:21:00,670 --> 01:20:57,320 ultimately what do you think if you were 1592 01:21:04,630 --> 01:21:00,680 gonna take a crack at this journalistic 1593 01:21:06,130 --> 01:21:04,640 of mine what what what why did they 1594 01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:06,140 close down the National Solar 1595 01:21:16,890 --> 01:21:13,090 Observatory well I think at this point 1596 01:21:20,550 --> 01:21:16,900 that we've heard pieces but we haven't 1597 01:21:24,070 --> 01:21:20,560 nobody has told us the real heart and 1598 01:21:27,400 --> 01:21:24,080 that would be in the pattern is the 1599 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:27,410 sheriff was deliberately left out the 1600 01:21:32,350 --> 01:21:30,290 FBI it was in charge right in the 1601 01:21:35,460 --> 01:21:32,360 beginning and their jurisdiction would 1602 01:21:39,550 --> 01:21:35,470 be national security national security 1603 01:21:43,990 --> 01:21:39,560 could involve international or it could 1604 01:21:47,710 --> 01:21:44,000 be spies or national or it could have to 1605 01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:47,720 do with some kind of theft as you 1606 01:21:53,050 --> 01:21:51,050 pointed out but the theft might be the 1607 01:21:56,470 --> 01:21:53,060 coverage for something like that more 1608 01:21:59,170 --> 01:21:56,480 insidious story of equipment at the 1609 01:22:02,620 --> 01:21:59,180 solar observatory being hacked or used 1610 01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:02,630 by in a foreign country to monitor and 1611 01:22:09,490 --> 01:22:05,330 watch white sands and Holloman Air Force 1612 01:22:12,640 --> 01:22:09,500 Base something that has not been 1613 01:22:15,340 --> 01:22:12,650 reported is my guess is what we're going 1614 01:22:18,580 --> 01:22:15,350 to learn and that it may have to do with 1615 01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:18,590 international sabotage or that bomb 1616 01:22:22,450 --> 01:22:19,310 threat 1617 01:22:25,510 --> 01:22:22,460 those two emails that I said nothing 1618 01:22:28,450 --> 01:22:25,520 proved but they did come early on and 1619 01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:28,460 they came from two people independently 1620 01:22:33,490 --> 01:22:31,010 who had either had somebody living there 1621 01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:33,500 or knew people who were living there at 1622 01:22:39,190 --> 01:22:35,690 the solar observatory that's where those 1623 01:22:42,310 --> 01:22:39,200 two emails came including one about a 1624 01:22:47,170 --> 01:22:42,320 bomb threat so somewhere between bomb 1625 01:22:50,200 --> 01:22:47,180 threat and some international misuse 1626 01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:50,210 perhaps of equipment that might tie into 1627 01:22:55,420 --> 01:22:52,250 your story but would not be the bottom 1628 01:22:57,940 --> 01:22:55,430 line I do not think this is over yet I 1629 01:23:01,270 --> 01:22:57,950 do not think we've heard the end of this 1630 01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:01,280 and it and if you took the whole big 1631 01:23:06,760 --> 01:23:04,250 enchilada of the last 12 days and you 1632 01:23:09,460 --> 01:23:06,770 said what is the single most significant 1633 01:23:11,500 --> 01:23:09,470 thing I'm sorry I'm allergic to juniper 1634 01:23:14,110 --> 01:23:11,510 and Jennifer is really bad right now in 1635 01:23:17,380 --> 01:23:14,120 September it would be 1636 01:23:19,900 --> 01:23:17,390 that a federal authority like the 1637 01:23:23,470 --> 01:23:19,910 National Science Foundation and Ora in 1638 01:23:26,950 --> 01:23:23,480 Washington DC would not have been 1639 01:23:30,700 --> 01:23:26,960 smarter about their very first press 1640 01:23:35,290 --> 01:23:30,710 release to the media and to the world I 1641 01:23:38,230 --> 01:23:35,300 know I know and if you are if you are an 1642 01:23:39,850 --> 01:23:38,240 employee up there let's say Linda 1643 01:23:42,760 --> 01:23:39,860 Moulton Howes living in one of those 1644 01:23:45,610 --> 01:23:42,770 houses with your husband and maybe even 1645 01:23:47,110 --> 01:23:45,620 a child and a dog right and they're 1646 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:47,120 gonna come to you and say you got to 1647 01:23:51,210 --> 01:23:48,290 pack up and you got to leave this 1648 01:23:55,870 --> 01:23:51,220 afternoon you better have a good reason 1649 01:23:58,750 --> 01:23:55,880 federal agency or not and what Paul M 1650 01:24:01,030 --> 01:23:58,760 learned today that I talked about that 1651 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:01,040 if somebody has been paying good money 1652 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:03,650 that was supposed to be money high 1653 01:24:07,890 --> 01:24:05,330 enough that you're not going to argue 1654 01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:07,900 about signing a nondisclosure agreement 1655 01:24:16,270 --> 01:24:12,890 quote this is directly from Paul they 1656 01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:16,280 had signed a non-disclosure form and 1657 01:24:24,180 --> 01:24:19,310 said they were compensated enough money 1658 01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:24,190 where they would not want to talk now 1659 01:24:31,150 --> 01:24:29,210 what is behind doing that I don't know 1660 01:24:35,830 --> 01:24:31,160 and and this is the other thing that the 1661 01:24:39,130 --> 01:24:35,840 bomb threat part or espionage I would 1662 01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:39,140 expect and I and I've heard all of this 1663 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:41,630 and so of you I would expect the ATF to 1664 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:44,330 be involved if there's explosives I 1665 01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:46,970 would expect the Department of Homeland 1666 01:24:53,380 --> 01:24:51,110 Security to be up there with spies and 1667 01:24:55,780 --> 01:24:53,390 espionage and computer hacking that 1668 01:24:57,610 --> 01:24:55,790 there would be not to say that the FBI 1669 01:25:00,100 --> 01:24:57,620 may not have the overall jurisdiction 1670 01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:00,110 but you're gonna bring in other if 1671 01:25:04,930 --> 01:25:02,450 there's a bomb threat I don't want the 1672 01:25:08,380 --> 01:25:04,940 FBI up there I want the ATF up there I 1673 01:25:10,030 --> 01:25:08,390 could be wrong but as a resident up 1674 01:25:12,130 --> 01:25:10,040 there I would want to know that this is 1675 01:25:14,110 --> 01:25:12,140 being handled correctly and it just 1676 01:25:18,910 --> 01:25:14,120 seems like it hasn't and that's the part 1677 01:25:22,630 --> 01:25:18,920 I the story doesn't wash yeah nothing 1678 01:25:24,160 --> 01:25:22,640 yet has come into gel to focus and 1679 01:25:27,650 --> 01:25:24,170 that's why this is not over 1680 01:25:31,460 --> 01:25:27,660 and everybody listening to Jimmy 1681 01:25:33,770 --> 01:25:31,470 so do a stereo and listen to earthfiles 1682 01:25:35,900 --> 01:25:33,780 when I do I'm going to be doing a report 1683 01:25:37,430 --> 01:25:35,910 Wednesday night on what else I have 1684 01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:37,440 learned from some people who are doing 1685 01:25:44,630 --> 01:25:40,770 some tramping in the grass for me and 1686 01:25:47,660 --> 01:25:44,640 that between you me and maybe a couple 1687 01:25:50,720 --> 01:25:47,670 of others we're going to try to keep 1688 01:25:53,690 --> 01:25:50,730 updating with the pressure of fact what 1689 01:25:56,150 --> 01:25:53,700 is truly one of the strangest evolving 1690 01:25:58,430 --> 01:25:56,160 to week stories I have ever encountered 1691 01:26:00,110 --> 01:25:58,440 yeah no doubt no doubt let's say let's 1692 01:26:02,540 --> 01:26:00,120 take a break right here and Linda when 1693 01:26:04,910 --> 01:26:02,550 we come back if it's okay with you let's 1694 01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:04,920 take a dance around some of your other 1695 01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:07,710 research and we'll see where we end up 1696 01:26:11,780 --> 01:26:10,170 how's that sound it's always fun when 1697 01:26:14,240 --> 01:26:11,790 you're here thank you so much for taking 1698 01:26:16,340 --> 01:26:14,250 the time tonight Linda on this very very 1699 01:26:18,440 --> 01:26:16,350 busy week for all of us our guest 1700 01:26:20,030 --> 01:26:18,450 tonight is Linda Moulton Howe I am your 1701 01:26:24,170 --> 01:26:20,040 host Jimmy church this is fade to black 1702 01:26:28,260 --> 01:26:24,180 on the GameChanger network and kg ra the 1703 01:26:44,130 --> 01:26:34,260 [Music] 1704 01:26:50,340 --> 01:26:47,340 way out here we listen to Jimmy Church 1705 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:50,350 you're listening to faint and black 1706 01:26:54,160 --> 01:26:52,850 always on the edge of the hottest 1707 01:26:57,430 --> 01:26:54,170 alternative talk 1708 01:27:16,090 --> 01:26:57,440 Jimmy church with fade to black stay GRA 1709 01:27:19,450 --> 01:27:16,100 radio.com Akane's 1710 01:27:21,220 --> 01:27:19,460 earthquakes wildfires this year we've 1711 01:27:24,010 --> 01:27:21,230 experienced more than our fair share 1712 01:27:26,500 --> 01:27:24,020 this is Jimmy Church a fade to black and 1713 01:27:28,690 --> 01:27:26,510 last month I 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01:31:19,550 --> 01:31:15,730 okay I'm back 1784 01:31:22,380 --> 01:31:19,560 fade to black I'm your host Jimmy Church 1785 01:31:26,010 --> 01:31:22,390 on the game changer network and kg are a 1786 01:31:32,580 --> 01:31:26,020 the planets and during the broadcast 1787 01:31:36,810 --> 01:31:32,590 here the the systems have been hit so I 1788 01:31:38,970 --> 01:31:36,820 am rebooting right now and I will if you 1789 01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:38,980 can hear me you are one of the lucky 1790 01:31:44,940 --> 01:31:42,550 ones and I'm resetting everything as we 1791 01:31:48,150 --> 01:31:44,950 speak and hopefully I will have 1792 01:31:51,930 --> 01:31:48,160 everything back here momentarily which 1793 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:51,940 includes Linda Moulton Howe and let's 1794 01:31:58,020 --> 01:31:55,930 see Linda are you there okay we don't 1795 01:32:00,990 --> 01:31:58,030 have Linda back yet I will have her 1796 01:32:04,770 --> 01:32:01,000 shortly and we're talking about the 1797 01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:04,780 National Solar Observatory and it's shut 1798 01:32:10,220 --> 01:32:06,910 down by the FBI that happened on 1799 01:32:13,820 --> 01:32:10,230 Thursday September 6th and a total 1800 01:32:16,830 --> 01:32:13,830 shutdown of the media and information 1801 01:32:19,910 --> 01:32:16,840 not only coming out of the FBI but from 1802 01:32:23,790 --> 01:32:19,920 aura and it which included the local 1803 01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:23,800 sheriff department there the otai of the 1804 01:32:28,260 --> 01:32:25,270 Otero County Sheriff 1805 01:32:32,670 --> 01:32:28,270 which wasn't given any information at 1806 01:32:35,100 --> 01:32:32,680 all and if you are going to do an 1807 01:32:38,910 --> 01:32:35,110 evacuation and you need security and 1808 01:32:40,470 --> 01:32:38,920 you've got issues with an employee up 1809 01:32:43,920 --> 01:32:40,480 there as well 1810 01:32:47,490 --> 01:32:43,930 then all of this would involve the local 1811 01:32:50,190 --> 01:32:47,500 county sheriff and you would have them 1812 01:32:52,580 --> 01:32:50,200 involved with one securing the compound 1813 01:32:55,290 --> 01:32:52,590 up there making sure that nobody went 1814 01:33:00,600 --> 01:32:55,300 into the compound you've got personal 1815 01:33:03,450 --> 01:33:00,610 belongings you've got all of the houses 1816 01:33:06,710 --> 01:33:03,460 that are up there for the employees that 1817 01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:06,720 you would want to secure as well well 1818 01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:10,810 when ransom Godwin went up to the 1819 01:33:18,150 --> 01:33:15,550 compound last Thursday he ran into the 1820 01:33:20,729 --> 01:33:18,160 sheriff and the sheriff turn around and 1821 01:33:23,640 --> 01:33:20,739 split and left him up there 1822 01:33:26,729 --> 01:33:23,650 and there were other people there as 1823 01:33:28,290 --> 01:33:26,739 well at the same time no concern of the 1824 01:33:33,290 --> 01:33:28,300 sheriff the sheriff just turned around 1825 01:33:36,450 --> 01:33:33,300 and split --mess as to the complexity of 1826 01:33:40,860 --> 01:33:36,460 everything that was going down up there 1827 01:33:45,570 --> 01:33:40,870 now let me I think we're back and we're 1828 01:33:47,630 --> 01:33:45,580 live so yeah we're good there we are 1829 01:33:50,850 --> 01:33:47,640 good there 1830 01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:50,860 kaitland yeah you know what's really you 1831 01:33:57,870 --> 01:33:52,450 know what's really funny with all of 1832 01:34:02,160 --> 01:33:57,880 this reporting the the systems here got 1833 01:34:04,320 --> 01:34:02,170 hit everything went offline yeah well it 1834 01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:04,330 clicked off and I have been waiting 1835 01:34:10,709 --> 01:34:07,420 figuring if I try to start dialing back 1836 01:34:12,540 --> 01:34:10,719 and not knowing what number then I would 1837 01:34:15,810 --> 01:34:12,550 mess things up so I've been sitting here 1838 01:34:19,410 --> 01:34:15,820 thinking how long will it be so I wonder 1839 01:34:22,350 --> 01:34:19,420 what did it seem to be affecting lights 1840 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:22,360 and everything or was it specific to the 1841 01:34:28,010 --> 01:34:24,489 audio yeah the the computer streams 1842 01:34:31,020 --> 01:34:28,020 everything yeah it was very interesting 1843 01:34:35,310 --> 01:34:31,030 electricity was fine it was just a 1844 01:34:37,170 --> 01:34:35,320 couple of the streams and so now I've 1845 01:34:41,670 --> 01:34:37,180 got everything reset let me tell you 1846 01:34:45,540 --> 01:34:41,680 something interesting on Friday this 1847 01:34:47,610 --> 01:34:45,550 past Friday our news series premiered on 1848 01:34:49,530 --> 01:34:47,620 History Channel that's no big deal 1849 01:34:53,070 --> 01:34:49,540 whatever you know it's just another TV 1850 01:34:56,690 --> 01:34:53,080 series but the opening episode of the 1851 01:35:00,090 --> 01:34:56,700 series which we called the Watchers I 1852 01:35:02,190 --> 01:35:00,100 specifically Linda and I kind of knew I 1853 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:02,200 was pushing pushing things a little bit 1854 01:35:09,060 --> 01:35:05,890 far but I went straight after the CIA I 1855 01:35:11,310 --> 01:35:09,070 named names I talked about software in 1856 01:35:13,530 --> 01:35:11,320 different companies and their venture 1857 01:35:15,390 --> 01:35:13,540 capital wing and how they're spying on 1858 01:35:17,310 --> 01:35:15,400 us and how they're using this and and 1859 01:35:19,860 --> 01:35:17,320 and I said to Rita 1860 01:35:24,120 --> 01:35:19,870 after the premiere I said you know well 1861 01:35:29,610 --> 01:35:24,130 if if we weren't on their radar we are 1862 01:35:31,830 --> 01:35:29,620 now I did I just thought to myself you 1863 01:35:33,720 --> 01:35:31,840 know I realized and 1864 01:35:36,859 --> 01:35:33,730 knew that History Channel and Amy were 1865 01:35:39,450 --> 01:35:36,869 concerned about this but but you know 1866 01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:39,460 sometimes you just have to put the truth 1867 01:35:44,850 --> 01:35:42,010 out there that's all you know to me it 1868 01:35:47,550 --> 01:35:44,860 isn't sometimes it's all the time we 1869 01:35:51,810 --> 01:35:47,560 should be trying constantly to vet and 1870 01:35:54,720 --> 01:35:51,820 do reality checks and what Drudge did by 1871 01:35:58,229 --> 01:35:54,730 pushing these headlines it was dismaying 1872 01:36:01,680 --> 01:35:58,239 to me because it seems like that he 1873 01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:01,690 should have a big enough population over 1874 01:36:07,830 --> 01:36:04,570 all these years to do some vetting some 1875 01:36:10,109 --> 01:36:07,840 checking on preposterous headline yeah 1876 01:36:12,689 --> 01:36:10,119 and and let's talk about that for a 1877 01:36:17,430 --> 01:36:12,699 second because there was I did go and 1878 01:36:20,609 --> 01:36:17,440 and and look there were no Observatory 1879 01:36:25,290 --> 01:36:20,619 shut down some webcams were taken 1880 01:36:29,700 --> 01:36:25,300 offline at the same time as around the 1881 01:36:31,890 --> 01:36:29,710 same time as this FBI evacuation was it 1882 01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:31,900 tied together or not I don't know but 1883 01:36:37,740 --> 01:36:35,770 certainly the FBI or or could have 1884 01:36:42,209 --> 01:36:37,750 stepped forward and said look the 1885 01:36:46,140 --> 01:36:42,219 webcams went down because of this yeah 1886 01:36:49,950 --> 01:36:46,150 on I printed with the help of Peter 1887 01:36:52,169 --> 01:36:49,960 Levin de what he found at each of those 1888 01:36:56,700 --> 01:36:52,179 websites it was a big help that he went 1889 01:37:00,359 --> 01:36:56,710 around and did that and in terms of you 1890 01:37:04,950 --> 01:37:00,369 can read they'll say X is under repair 1891 01:37:08,370 --> 01:37:04,960 or we have a web camera down and because 1892 01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:08,380 they are so specific about what they are 1893 01:37:13,050 --> 01:37:11,050 doing they have to be they have so many 1894 01:37:15,959 --> 01:37:13,060 astronomers and various people around 1895 01:37:18,479 --> 01:37:15,969 the world that are dependent upon them 1896 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:18,489 and so when you go to various 1897 01:37:24,240 --> 01:37:21,130 observatories at any time and you do a 1898 01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:24,250 Google search you can find what is going 1899 01:37:31,770 --> 01:37:27,310 on what is available what is happening 1900 01:37:33,810 --> 01:37:31,780 and that is a part of the astronomy 1901 01:37:36,570 --> 01:37:33,820 world there's nothing unusual and as 1902 01:37:38,660 --> 01:37:36,580 Peter wrote to me in an email when he 1903 01:37:41,550 --> 01:37:38,670 was doing that research he said quote 1904 01:37:45,480 --> 01:37:41,560 another thing to keep in mind the 1905 01:37:50,190 --> 01:37:45,490 American feds cannot shut down 1906 01:37:52,350 --> 01:37:50,200 foreign observatories right right so so 1907 01:37:55,020 --> 01:37:52,360 Annie I'm this is a quote from Peter 1908 01:37:58,560 --> 01:37:55,030 LaVonda who is a brilliant researcher so 1909 01:38:01,710 --> 01:37:58,570 any attempt to interdict that means to 1910 01:38:05,010 --> 01:38:01,720 interfere with data coming from sunspot 1911 01:38:08,070 --> 01:38:05,020 New Mexico would be futile if other 1912 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:08,080 observatories started reporting unusual 1913 01:38:12,450 --> 01:38:09,970 activity meaning if there was something 1914 01:38:15,150 --> 01:38:12,460 that somebody was trying to block that 1915 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:15,160 they're not going to be able to block 1916 01:38:19,560 --> 01:38:17,050 what's going on in international 1917 01:38:22,860 --> 01:38:19,570 observatories and that there are about 1918 01:38:25,410 --> 01:38:22,870 the total of solar there's a difference 1919 01:38:29,190 --> 01:38:25,420 I think when we were on in the first 1920 01:38:31,530 --> 01:38:29,200 hour there are hundreds of observatories 1921 01:38:35,610 --> 01:38:31,540 around the world in the northern South 1922 01:38:38,970 --> 01:38:35,620 in terms of the observatories that focus 1923 01:38:42,660 --> 01:38:38,980 on the Sun specifically there's about a 1924 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:42,670 dozen so you can do a quick search on 1925 01:38:48,810 --> 01:38:45,970 all of those and the only one that Peter 1926 01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:48,820 wasn't able to access access was in 1927 01:38:55,730 --> 01:38:51,610 Australia because they demanded that 1928 01:38:57,780 --> 01:38:55,740 there be some kind of a classified 1929 01:39:00,450 --> 01:38:57,790 username/password 1930 01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:00,460 to get into that website which makes 1931 01:39:06,740 --> 01:39:03,850 sense for observatories and so what I'm 1932 01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:06,750 trying to say is there is normal chatter 1933 01:39:12,690 --> 01:39:11,050 about the repairs cleaning all of the 1934 01:39:14,990 --> 01:39:12,700 stuff of the observatories it's 1935 01:39:19,950 --> 01:39:15,000 constantly you can find out on the web 1936 01:39:22,980 --> 01:39:19,960 the the FBI and aura didn't do 1937 01:39:27,300 --> 01:39:22,990 themselves any favor any favors to 1938 01:39:31,460 --> 01:39:27,310 dispel the rumors of et contact or or an 1939 01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:31,470 alien component to this story by not 1940 01:39:37,950 --> 01:39:35,650 denying it right and what I mean by that 1941 01:39:40,650 --> 01:39:37,960 is they didn't say anything about 1942 01:39:43,020 --> 01:39:40,660 anything so you're gonna allow the 1943 01:39:46,020 --> 01:39:43,030 community and the rest of the world to 1944 01:39:48,570 --> 01:39:46,030 to fill in the their own blanks and let 1945 01:39:50,430 --> 01:39:48,580 me tell you something about that Linda I 1946 01:39:53,310 --> 01:39:50,440 can't wait to hear your answer for this 1947 01:39:55,830 --> 01:39:53,320 it also shows you that the rest of the 1948 01:39:57,990 --> 01:39:55,840 world is definitely waiting for 1949 01:40:01,260 --> 01:39:58,000 something like this to break 1950 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:01,270 thinks that is absolutely true Jimmy we 1951 01:40:06,630 --> 01:40:03,970 are in a revolutionary time it has been 1952 01:40:09,590 --> 01:40:06,640 coming for at least 18 months where 1953 01:40:12,990 --> 01:40:09,600 everything is shifted since the December 1954 01:40:16,530 --> 01:40:13,000 16th 2017 headline in the New York Times 1955 01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:16,540 The Washington Post having to do with a 1956 01:40:25,110 --> 01:40:20,410 FLIR infrared video that have been taken 1957 01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:25,120 by gun camera of UFOs and once that 1958 01:40:31,830 --> 01:40:29,500 occurred the entire landscape has been 1959 01:40:35,780 --> 01:40:31,840 shifting ever since that's right and 1960 01:40:38,370 --> 01:40:35,790 that we are I have said on the air and 1961 01:40:41,100 --> 01:40:38,380 we've talked about on phenomenon I've 1962 01:40:44,760 --> 01:40:41,110 got a couple of dinner bets that by New 1963 01:40:46,830 --> 01:40:44,770 Year's Day 2019 we will have the 1964 01:40:50,730 --> 01:40:46,840 headline we're not alone in the universe 1965 01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:50,740 now that the other life other 1966 01:40:55,860 --> 01:40:53,410 intelligence it could be that it will be 1967 01:40:58,260 --> 01:40:55,870 an announcement about microbes on Mars 1968 01:41:00,750 --> 01:40:58,270 it doesn't matter to me it's getting 1969 01:41:05,670 --> 01:41:00,760 this out the fast radio bursts 1970 01:41:07,830 --> 01:41:05,680 what if Harvard and star shot and others 1971 01:41:09,870 --> 01:41:07,840 say we're now convinced that we're 1972 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:09,880 dealing with something that caught falls 1973 01:41:13,980 --> 01:41:12,250 into the category of some kind of 1974 01:41:16,350 --> 01:41:13,990 transport system it's three billion 1975 01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:16,360 light-years away now the challenge will 1976 01:41:20,910 --> 01:41:18,130 be to find out who it is and what they 1977 01:41:24,870 --> 01:41:20,920 are doing that would be a breakthrough 1978 01:41:29,610 --> 01:41:24,880 the whole planet it all boats would rise 1979 01:41:32,580 --> 01:41:29,620 suddenly CBS NBC BBC Reuters everybody 1980 01:41:33,810 --> 01:41:32,590 would then be all my god there's other 1981 01:41:36,780 --> 01:41:33,820 life in the universe 1982 01:41:38,490 --> 01:41:36,790 and you and I and a bunch of people have 1983 01:41:40,260 --> 01:41:38,500 been working on what I think are the 1984 01:41:42,030 --> 01:41:40,270 absolute facts that there are other 1985 01:41:45,150 --> 01:41:42,040 intelligences interacting with this 1986 01:41:48,630 --> 01:41:45,160 planet but it has been denied it has 1987 01:41:52,170 --> 01:41:48,640 been under policies of denial since 1988 01:41:55,470 --> 01:41:52,180 World War two and we are I think so 1989 01:41:58,890 --> 01:41:55,480 close to finally having that it will be 1990 01:42:00,390 --> 01:41:58,900 a major revolution headlines around the 1991 01:42:04,340 --> 01:42:00,400 world we're not alone in the universe 1992 01:42:08,370 --> 01:42:04,350 however it happens once that occurs 1993 01:42:11,850 --> 01:42:08,380 black budgets black space secret space 1994 01:42:15,390 --> 01:42:11,860 programs it will China Russia the United 1995 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:15,400 States wherever it is there will be more 1996 01:42:21,720 --> 01:42:19,330 and more impetus to start washing all 1997 01:42:25,470 --> 01:42:21,730 this advanced technology into the white 1998 01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:25,480 world that is it seems to me that that's 1999 01:42:31,410 --> 01:42:28,810 going to be critical if we don't get 2000 01:42:35,040 --> 01:42:31,420 this planet together on sort of we'll 2001 01:42:38,189 --> 01:42:35,050 call it the one square where everybody 2002 01:42:40,500 --> 01:42:38,199 has the same perspective we're not alone 2003 01:42:43,439 --> 01:42:40,510 in the universe we're one of many 2004 01:42:45,689 --> 01:42:43,449 life-forms that there are technologies 2005 01:42:48,750 --> 01:42:45,699 that can neutralize gravity can move 2006 01:42:52,709 --> 01:42:48,760 point to point by bending space-time and 2007 01:42:55,620 --> 01:42:52,719 that we're a part of that then the whole 2008 01:42:57,390 --> 01:42:55,630 planet moves you know and when one of 2009 01:43:01,770 --> 01:42:57,400 the things you're so right about that 2010 01:43:05,540 --> 01:43:01,780 and I think that the acceptance of what 2011 01:43:08,129 --> 01:43:05,550 happened back on December 16th in that 2012 01:43:12,060 --> 01:43:08,139 2017 in that the world didn't go to hell 2013 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:12,070 in a handbasket Linda right the the 2014 01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:14,650 stock market didn't crumble the Vatican 2015 01:43:19,830 --> 01:43:17,650 didn't burn to the ground and and and as 2016 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:19,840 far as I know Linda maybe you know but I 2017 01:43:26,220 --> 01:43:21,130 don't think anybody jumped off a 2018 01:43:29,189 --> 01:43:26,230 building nobody nobody I had people who 2019 01:43:32,280 --> 01:43:29,199 are scientists who are engineers who are 2020 01:43:35,220 --> 01:43:32,290 medical doctors calling me emailing me 2021 01:43:38,760 --> 01:43:35,230 we've been following your work for years 2022 01:43:41,879 --> 01:43:38,770 and now the New York Times it must be 2023 01:43:45,390 --> 01:43:41,889 wonderful Linda you are all of this hard 2024 01:43:48,890 --> 01:43:45,400 work is being supported verified in 2025 01:43:52,950 --> 01:43:48,900 other words that was the intelligent 2026 01:43:56,010 --> 01:43:52,960 conclusion of so many people who already 2027 01:43:58,740 --> 01:43:56,020 in their own way had been following my 2028 01:44:01,410 --> 01:43:58,750 work your work and others but the New 2029 01:44:03,780 --> 01:44:01,420 York Times The Washington Post Politico 2030 01:44:05,910 --> 01:44:03,790 when they did pull all that out it 2031 01:44:08,540 --> 01:44:05,920 suddenly gave everybody who has been 2032 01:44:11,700 --> 01:44:08,550 kind of quietly behind the scenes 2033 01:44:14,669 --> 01:44:11,710 tracking about UFOs and ETS and reading 2034 01:44:16,740 --> 01:44:14,679 and following our material but suddenly 2035 01:44:19,109 --> 01:44:16,750 there was a big shift 2036 01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:19,119 I had pilots that are friends of my 2037 01:44:25,740 --> 01:44:22,570 brother and calling me and say boy this 2038 01:44:28,880 --> 01:44:25,750 must feel great to know that your 2039 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:28,890 work is now and so that meant everybody 2040 01:44:35,130 --> 01:44:32,890 everybody understood who would be 2041 01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:35,140 reading the New York Times that this was 2042 01:44:41,490 --> 01:44:37,930 a big this is a big step on the 2043 01:44:44,670 --> 01:44:41,500 chessboard and that what we need now 2044 01:44:47,040 --> 01:44:44,680 beyond infrared video is a lot more of 2045 01:44:49,830 --> 01:44:47,050 it with more information and that 2046 01:44:52,710 --> 01:44:49,840 headline that the governments of this 2047 01:44:54,930 --> 01:44:52,720 planet all know that we're not alone and 2048 01:44:57,180 --> 01:44:54,940 that there are advanced intelligences 2049 01:44:59,760 --> 01:44:57,190 that's what we need we need that 2050 01:45:03,120 --> 01:44:59,770 breakthrough and then everything that 2051 01:45:05,730 --> 01:45:03,130 we're working on rises in credibility 2052 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:05,740 and this is this is how I picture it but 2053 01:45:10,770 --> 01:45:08,650 let's say and I hope I hope that you win 2054 01:45:12,420 --> 01:45:10,780 that dinner bet I'll take you out I'll 2055 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:12,430 take you out anywhere you want to go 2056 01:45:17,100 --> 01:45:14,530 that's that's nice but but let's say you 2057 01:45:20,700 --> 01:45:17,110 win the dinner bet and the headlines are 2058 01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:20,710 now on the Jumbotrons in Times Square 2059 01:45:25,320 --> 01:45:23,830 and and you know how Times Square is you 2060 01:45:28,050 --> 01:45:25,330 got a half a million people all walking 2061 01:45:31,110 --> 01:45:28,060 around doing their stuff that I could 2062 01:45:35,490 --> 01:45:31,120 almost imagine that everybody in Times 2063 01:45:36,930 --> 01:45:35,500 Square is going to continue shopping is 2064 01:45:38,880 --> 01:45:36,940 going to continue walking down the 2065 01:45:41,310 --> 01:45:38,890 streets going to continue going to work 2066 01:45:44,640 --> 01:45:41,320 while this headline is playing out on 2067 01:45:47,130 --> 01:45:44,650 the jumbotron in what they're saying to 2068 01:45:50,070 --> 01:45:47,140 each other I told you right I knew that 2069 01:45:51,810 --> 01:45:50,080 I know that's what's gonna happen right 2070 01:45:53,250 --> 01:45:51,820 I've got to get to work but the headline 2071 01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:53,260 school I got to get to work and they're 2072 01:46:00,300 --> 01:45:58,090 gonna continue doing the status quo is 2073 01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:00,310 not going to change you know I think 2074 01:46:04,590 --> 01:46:02,410 that they're expecting it they're not 2075 01:46:07,350 --> 01:46:04,600 going to go into shock they're gonna go 2076 01:46:10,830 --> 01:46:07,360 yeah okay it could be an interview with 2077 01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:10,840 it with an alien how the jumbotron right 2078 01:46:15,780 --> 01:46:13,810 let me tell you what I think is coming 2079 01:46:18,180 --> 01:46:15,790 really fast and I'm not kidding 2080 01:46:20,190 --> 01:46:18,190 which underscores and goes beyond what 2081 01:46:22,380 --> 01:46:20,200 you're saying we're going to start 2082 01:46:26,610 --> 01:46:22,390 having newscasts from Mars 2083 01:46:29,370 --> 01:46:26,620 if Elon Musk launches in 2020 we have 2084 01:46:33,600 --> 01:46:29,380 the technology if we start working with 2085 01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:33,610 laser light it is three minutes and 21 2086 01:46:38,850 --> 01:46:36,970 seconds on average for light to go from 2087 01:46:39,660 --> 01:46:38,860 the Earth to Mars or Mars to the earth 2088 01:46:44,060 --> 01:46:39,670 right 2089 01:46:48,570 --> 01:46:44,070 that's at the speed of light if we go at 2090 01:46:51,450 --> 01:46:48,580 50% the speed of light if we can push 2091 01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:51,460 one of these wafer craft from Earth to 2092 01:46:58,980 --> 01:46:54,790 Mars like a Pony Express then maybe we 2093 01:47:03,420 --> 01:46:58,990 would get it to Mars in six minutes and 2094 01:47:07,620 --> 01:47:03,430 then we'd have to let's say Elon Musk 2095 01:47:09,660 --> 01:47:07,630 one of his tasks will be to build think 2096 01:47:14,310 --> 01:47:09,670 of a tennis player or two tennis players 2097 01:47:17,190 --> 01:47:14,320 and there's a net so we send a message 2098 01:47:20,730 --> 01:47:17,200 in one of these wafer craft to Mars we 2099 01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:20,740 need some kind of a racket that will bat 2100 01:47:26,940 --> 01:47:24,130 it back to earth and then earth bats it 2101 01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:26,950 back to Mars and that would become our 2102 01:47:33,570 --> 01:47:31,090 Pony Express in space sending messages 2103 01:47:36,780 --> 01:47:33,580 and images and all of that and it that's 2104 01:47:40,140 --> 01:47:36,790 why once that they start doing stuff 2105 01:47:45,000 --> 01:47:40,150 like that we will have newscast from 2106 01:47:48,240 --> 01:47:45,010 Mars when that begins Jimmy we are in a 2107 01:47:51,720 --> 01:47:48,250 completely different century the whole 2108 01:47:55,050 --> 01:47:51,730 definition of technology artificial 2109 01:47:58,590 --> 01:47:55,060 intelligence cyborgs we are moving into 2110 01:48:02,430 --> 01:47:58,600 already enhancing the brain with the 2111 01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:02,440 neural lace of what Elon Musk he said 2112 01:48:10,710 --> 01:48:07,380 this year for humans to remain relevant 2113 01:48:14,760 --> 01:48:10,720 for the rest of this century we have to 2114 01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:14,770 move to being cyborgs we have to learn 2115 01:48:21,120 --> 01:48:18,490 to advance our brains we have to learn 2116 01:48:24,420 --> 01:48:21,130 how to make our bodies live longer 2117 01:48:28,020 --> 01:48:24,430 stronger healthier so that we are 2118 01:48:30,930 --> 01:48:28,030 already seeing the signs the humanity is 2119 01:48:33,660 --> 01:48:30,940 going especially in technologies going 2120 01:48:37,320 --> 01:48:33,670 into space humans are going to have to 2121 01:48:40,500 --> 01:48:37,330 be augmented and become cyborgs what - 2122 01:48:44,610 --> 01:48:40,510 why'd I was so excited to hear about 2123 01:48:49,290 --> 01:48:44,620 this with your work with John Greenwald 2124 01:48:51,740 --> 01:48:49,300 and him going and finally getting 2125 01:48:57,350 --> 01:48:51,750 suppressed documents from 2126 01:49:00,610 --> 01:48:57,360 the FBI once again mutilations but they 2127 01:49:06,650 --> 01:49:00,620 must I mean John and I had a big laugh 2128 01:49:10,670 --> 01:49:06,660 the idea that a Bell Helicopter would be 2129 01:49:14,630 --> 01:49:10,680 able to lift up a 1700 pound 2130 01:49:17,240 --> 01:49:14,640 pregnant cow or a 2,000 pound bull I 2131 01:49:20,900 --> 01:49:17,250 just right on the face of it it didn't 2132 01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:20,910 make sense and that's when John had a 2133 01:49:27,200 --> 01:49:23,450 pilot who had flown these Bell 2134 01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:27,210 helicopters in Vietnam I interviewed him 2135 01:49:33,170 --> 01:49:30,570 he went into the specs on the weight of 2136 01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:33,180 one of those helicopters the most the 2137 01:49:41,930 --> 01:49:36,030 most it could possibly lift up with 2138 01:49:46,160 --> 01:49:41,940 something like 1095 pounds a ball is 2139 01:49:49,430 --> 01:49:46,170 2,000 a pregnant cow is 1700 pounds you 2140 01:49:51,830 --> 01:49:49,440 can see the point so if that document 2141 01:49:55,370 --> 01:49:51,840 showed that for a while between the fall 2142 01:49:58,730 --> 01:49:55,380 of 1979 and two months later it only 2143 01:50:02,020 --> 01:49:58,740 lasted for two months that the FBI 2144 01:50:03,890 --> 01:50:02,030 office in I think it was beauty an ax 2145 01:50:07,370 --> 01:50:03,900 communicating with the director of the 2146 01:50:10,040 --> 01:50:07,380 FBI in Washington DC we're saying that 2147 01:50:14,270 --> 01:50:10,050 they were on the trail of helicopters 2148 01:50:17,210 --> 01:50:14,280 and people had been described and they 2149 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:17,220 had a description of some human and that 2150 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:21,570 these were the animal mutilators within 2151 01:50:28,250 --> 01:50:24,810 eight weeks approximately the whole 2152 01:50:31,010 --> 01:50:28,260 thing was scuttled they obviously had 2153 01:50:33,560 --> 01:50:31,020 done their homework and it was the head 2154 01:50:37,790 --> 01:50:33,570 of the FBI office who said there was no 2155 01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:37,800 rational who used the word no rational 2156 01:50:43,100 --> 01:50:41,370 and investigative potential in what they 2157 01:50:47,270 --> 01:50:43,110 had been investigating 2158 01:50:50,090 --> 01:50:47,280 well then John Greenwald he said you 2159 01:50:54,550 --> 01:50:50,100 know Linda these documents must have 2160 01:50:59,410 --> 01:50:54,560 been withheld from 1979 until this year 2161 01:51:01,820 --> 01:50:59,420 because the FBI was embarrassed by these 2162 01:51:06,350 --> 01:51:01,830 documents they would have shown 2163 01:51:09,380 --> 01:51:06,360 absolutely no credible in 2164 01:51:13,010 --> 01:51:09,390 to try to look at helicopters as being 2165 01:51:15,710 --> 01:51:13,020 involved not only in Montana there are 2166 01:51:17,720 --> 01:51:15,720 hundreds and hundreds thousands of cases 2167 01:51:20,990 --> 01:51:17,730 of animal mutilations around the world 2168 01:51:25,250 --> 01:51:21,000 so that the disconnect between the 2169 01:51:27,950 --> 01:51:25,260 actual facts the pressure effect versus 2170 01:51:31,280 --> 01:51:27,960 a hypothesis is put in a document and 2171 01:51:33,620 --> 01:51:31,290 then it gets suppressed for 40 years and 2172 01:51:36,020 --> 01:51:33,630 then it finally comes out because john 2173 01:51:38,540 --> 01:51:36,030 greenwald is filing all these foyers i 2174 01:51:40,430 --> 01:51:38,550 guess are they finally decided that they 2175 01:51:44,420 --> 01:51:40,440 would just own up that they were 2176 01:51:46,880 --> 01:51:44,430 responsible for one of these hypotheses 2177 01:51:49,760 --> 01:51:46,890 that was ludicrous on the face 2178 01:51:52,370 --> 01:51:49,770 yeah well that was that was what was fun 2179 01:51:53,750 --> 01:51:52,380 working on with John and I want the 2180 01:51:54,860 --> 01:51:53,760 audience to understand what we're 2181 01:51:56,660 --> 01:51:54,870 talking about here we're not talking 2182 01:51:58,430 --> 01:51:56,670 about a Huey we're not talking about a 2183 01:52:02,420 --> 01:51:58,440 Blackhawk we're talking about the Bell 2184 01:52:05,660 --> 01:52:02,430 47 which was that old helicopter with 2185 01:52:08,150 --> 01:52:05,670 the big Plexiglas ball on the front of 2186 01:52:11,750 --> 01:52:08,160 it that looked like it could barely pick 2187 01:52:17,180 --> 01:52:11,760 up a couple of human pilots and fly away 2188 01:52:21,950 --> 01:52:17,190 let alone a 2,000 pound cow not possible 2189 01:52:24,440 --> 01:52:21,960 not physically possible your your 2190 01:52:27,500 --> 01:52:24,450 coverage on this when I read this I 2191 01:52:30,050 --> 01:52:27,510 thought it was one of the best put 2192 01:52:32,900 --> 01:52:30,060 together interviews that you have done 2193 01:52:35,180 --> 01:52:32,910 and the mp3s are there too as well but 2194 01:52:39,230 --> 01:52:35,190 all right all of the documents are there 2195 01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:39,240 and it is one of the can I use comedy is 2196 01:52:45,830 --> 01:52:43,650 comedy the right word that teracle or 2197 01:52:48,290 --> 01:52:45,840 sardonic it's probably the better word 2198 01:52:50,990 --> 01:52:48,300 when you're do I'm doing it straight and 2199 01:52:54,710 --> 01:52:51,000 Jonna is doing it straight but we both 2200 01:53:00,280 --> 01:52:54,720 realize that what we are talking about 2201 01:53:03,950 --> 01:53:00,290 is the foolishness of some of the 2202 01:53:07,430 --> 01:53:03,960 conclusions documents that get withheld 2203 01:53:10,550 --> 01:53:07,440 for 70 years and when you finally see 2204 01:53:13,660 --> 01:53:10,560 them like this 140 years later you 2205 01:53:16,550 --> 01:53:13,670 realize somebody with common sense 2206 01:53:19,010 --> 01:53:16,560 looked at these documents that were 2207 01:53:23,840 --> 01:53:19,020 coming across their desk and said 2208 01:53:26,660 --> 01:53:23,850 has anybody investigated what a Bell 47 2209 01:53:29,420 --> 01:53:26,670 can lift up and they probably then 2210 01:53:31,100 --> 01:53:29,430 finally did and they came to know it 2211 01:53:34,040 --> 01:53:31,110 can't lift up anything more than a 2212 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:34,050 thousand ninety-five and they and they 2213 01:53:39,020 --> 01:53:37,050 said well that doesn't explain most of 2214 01:53:42,140 --> 01:53:39,030 the animal mutilations then does it and 2215 01:53:44,630 --> 01:53:42,150 and that probably okay about deep six 2216 01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:44,640 that those documents get put in a file 2217 01:53:50,240 --> 01:53:47,370 and they are left in 40 years later john 2218 01:53:53,060 --> 01:53:50,250 greenwald is doing FOIA requests and for 2219 01:53:55,370 --> 01:53:53,070 reasons unknown somebody either decides 2220 01:53:58,520 --> 01:53:55,380 or it was slipped out or whatever and 2221 01:54:01,850 --> 01:53:58,530 we're now looking at them together and 2222 01:54:04,900 --> 01:54:01,860 laughing because it becomes laughable 2223 01:54:08,000 --> 01:54:04,910 when the disconnect from reality and 2224 01:54:11,960 --> 01:54:08,010 investigation just sheer common sense is 2225 01:54:14,780 --> 01:54:11,970 so great yeah and when you when you when 2226 01:54:17,270 --> 01:54:14,790 you look at what a Bell 47 actually is 2227 01:54:22,430 --> 01:54:17,280 and then let's let's do a couple just 2228 01:54:24,830 --> 01:54:22,440 common sense two adult males in in the 2229 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:24,840 helicopter that's four hundred pounds 2230 01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:27,690 right there that's four hundred pounds 2231 01:54:31,730 --> 01:54:29,310 right there it just takes any 2232 01:54:34,510 --> 01:54:31,740 consideration off of the table it's just 2233 01:54:38,090 --> 01:54:34,520 it's just logic and common sense and 2234 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:38,100 I've flown in a bell 47 when I was a kid 2235 01:54:43,220 --> 01:54:41,370 and I went up with a with a pilot in the 2236 01:54:45,530 --> 01:54:43,230 Smoky Mountains and I'm telling you 2237 01:54:51,170 --> 01:54:45,540 right now that's all that that's all 2238 01:54:52,310 --> 01:54:51,180 that I just know it's great coverage 2239 01:54:54,710 --> 01:54:52,320 when we come back I'm going to take a 2240 01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:54,720 break right here I want to talk about 2241 01:54:58,910 --> 01:54:57,450 and let's do a follow up over all of the 2242 01:55:05,180 --> 01:54:58,920 shows that we have done in the past 2243 01:55:07,070 --> 01:55:05,190 about the cat mutilations okay good 2244 01:55:10,550 --> 01:55:07,080 let's let's do that when we come back 2245 01:55:12,260 --> 01:55:10,560 and you know one of the one of the 2246 01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:12,270 things that I enjoy about this audience 2247 01:55:19,460 --> 01:55:16,290 Linda is I'm a I'm a dog and cat person 2248 01:55:25,280 --> 01:55:19,470 my family as you are so much of our 2249 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:25,290 audience is is emotionally affected by 2250 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:28,890 these reports and and it may be a little 2251 01:55:32,540 --> 01:55:31,410 bit harsh on the surface but we've got 2252 01:55:34,790 --> 01:55:32,550 to talk about it 2253 01:55:36,230 --> 01:55:34,800 not talking about it is even worse so 2254 01:55:39,350 --> 01:55:36,240 let's do that when we come back our 2255 01:55:40,610 --> 01:55:39,360 guest tonight Linda Moulton Howe her 2256 01:55:43,250 --> 01:55:40,620 files.com 2257 01:55:45,650 --> 01:55:43,260 if you're not a member go and get signed 2258 01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:45,660 up over to files.com you can follow 2259 01:55:50,090 --> 01:55:48,450 Linda at earthfiles on twitter i'm your 2260 01:55:51,830 --> 01:55:50,100 host jimmy church this is fade to black 2261 01:55:53,350 --> 01:55:51,840 stay with us 2262 01:55:56,400 --> 01:55:53,360 [Music] 2263 01:55:59,260 --> 01:55:56,410 [Applause] 2264 01:56:03,950 --> 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anytime 2363 02:00:14,970 --> 02:00:10,250 [Applause] 2364 02:00:17,600 --> 02:00:14,980 you wanna know a secret I love ponies I 2365 02:00:20,220 --> 02:00:17,610 really love for this I'm serious I 2366 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:20,230 couldn't stay sable without pol mr. 2367 02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:24,130 Brooks why fade to black because you 2368 02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:31,200 this is fade to black 2369 02:00:37,020 --> 02:00:33,370 with Jimmy Church on the game changer 2370 02:00:39,400 --> 02:00:37,030 radio network and kgr a the global radio 2371 02:00:52,670 --> 02:00:39,410 alliance 2372 02:00:58,770 --> 02:00:55,610 all right welcome back 2373 02:01:05,340 --> 02:00:58,780 fade to black I'm real stupid Church I 2374 02:01:07,380 --> 02:01:05,350 guess tonight Linda Moulton Howe talking 2375 02:01:08,970 --> 02:01:07,390 about the National Solar Observatory in 2376 02:01:11,670 --> 02:01:08,980 the first half of the show one of the 2377 02:01:14,160 --> 02:01:11,680 great I can guarantee this everybody 2378 02:01:16,470 --> 02:01:14,170 that this is it's a story that's going 2379 02:01:18,240 --> 02:01:16,480 to be talked about for many years to 2380 02:01:20,400 --> 02:01:18,250 come until we get the right answers and 2381 02:01:20,760 --> 02:01:20,410 Linda you've got a coughs OH do I hold 2382 02:01:25,020 --> 02:01:20,770 on 2383 02:01:28,890 --> 02:01:25,030 I had to cough that's what the coughed 2384 02:01:31,800 --> 02:01:28,900 button is is there for now this just 2385 02:01:35,780 --> 02:01:31,810 went up in Twitter I needed to ask you 2386 02:01:38,430 --> 02:01:35,790 about this cattle mutilations themselves 2387 02:01:41,370 --> 02:01:38,440 the stories have been out there that 2388 02:01:45,240 --> 02:01:41,380 they've virtually stopped have they have 2389 02:01:46,650 --> 02:01:45,250 they stopped no if you go to earth 2390 02:01:50,340 --> 02:01:46,660 files.com 2391 02:01:52,830 --> 02:01:50,350 and you do in my search animal 2392 02:01:57,870 --> 02:01:52,840 mutilations there are hundreds of 2393 02:02:03,120 --> 02:01:57,880 reports that just I have done right now 2394 02:02:07,650 --> 02:02:03,130 I have at Earth files.com reports about 2395 02:02:10,920 --> 02:02:07,660 half cats and about cattle cattle in 2396 02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:10,930 Argentina go in cycles they are as 2397 02:02:16,110 --> 02:02:14,170 bloodless eerie as they have been for 2398 02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:16,120 the last going all the way back to the 2399 02:02:23,130 --> 02:02:20,530 early 60s some newspapers in the 50s so 2400 02:02:26,190 --> 02:02:23,140 we're talking a half a century in the 2401 02:02:29,610 --> 02:02:26,200 20th century and we're at 20 18 in the 2402 02:02:33,540 --> 02:02:29,620 21st century animal mutilations have 2403 02:02:38,370 --> 02:02:33,550 been all over this planet every month of 2404 02:02:42,360 --> 02:02:38,380 every year for at least almost a century 2405 02:02:45,510 --> 02:02:42,370 and right now one of the significant 2406 02:02:48,150 --> 02:02:45,520 developments for me was that on August 2407 02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:48,160 31st this is the 18th so a little more 2408 02:02:56,400 --> 02:02:51,490 than two weeks ago the Augustan New York 2409 02:02:58,590 --> 02:02:56,410 Times did a huge story started on the 2410 02:03:01,230 --> 02:02:58,600 front page with a notice and it went to 2411 02:03:02,140 --> 02:03:01,240 the entire upper half above the fold the 2412 02:03:05,950 --> 02:03:02,150 whole half pay 2413 02:03:08,380 --> 02:03:05,960 New York Times about cat mutilations in 2414 02:03:12,340 --> 02:03:08,390 Olympia Washington I've been reporting 2415 02:03:14,740 --> 02:03:12,350 about them now throughout the year but 2416 02:03:16,660 --> 02:03:14,750 finally the New York Times caught up 2417 02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:16,670 they did a beautiful story meaning very 2418 02:03:23,350 --> 02:03:20,210 detailed with good photographs and here 2419 02:03:25,479 --> 02:03:23,360 is the quote that I feature that are 2420 02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:25,489 files from the New York Times August 2421 02:03:32,410 --> 02:03:29,570 31st quote in most cases of these cat 2422 02:03:36,070 --> 02:03:32,420 mutilations the perpetrator has been 2423 02:03:39,090 --> 02:03:36,080 meticulous the cuts are clean no blood 2424 02:03:41,740 --> 02:03:39,100 and there is little other evidence an 2425 02:03:46,030 --> 02:03:41,750 indication that the killer has 2426 02:03:50,350 --> 02:03:46,040 experienced doing this in some cases the 2427 02:03:53,590 --> 02:03:50,360 spines alone have been removed in others 2428 02:03:56,740 --> 02:03:53,600 the organs have been laid out next to 2429 02:03:59,590 --> 02:03:56,750 the body some of the cats have been 2430 02:04:04,720 --> 02:03:59,600 found dismembered close quote that means 2431 02:04:09,880 --> 02:04:04,730 one or more paws or legs removed none 2432 02:04:12,669 --> 02:04:09,890 with blood and for people who may not 2433 02:04:15,220 --> 02:04:12,679 understand the big story of animal 2434 02:04:18,850 --> 02:04:15,230 mutilations it began for me in September 2435 02:04:21,130 --> 02:04:18,860 of 1979 I was working as director of 2436 02:04:23,470 --> 02:04:21,140 special projects at the CBS station in 2437 02:04:25,780 --> 02:04:23,480 Denver and my job was to produce two or 2438 02:04:28,149 --> 02:04:25,790 three documentaries a year through live 2439 02:04:30,399 --> 02:04:28,159 studio programs with an audience about 2440 02:04:34,660 --> 02:04:30,409 issues affecting the state of Colorado 2441 02:04:37,510 --> 02:04:34,670 and then to do new segments and when 2442 02:04:42,160 --> 02:04:37,520 there were headlines in the newspapers 2443 02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:42,170 that fall about repeat and cycles of 2444 02:04:48,100 --> 02:04:45,290 animal mutilations it was new to me I 2445 02:04:51,430 --> 02:04:48,110 had come from Stanford University in 2446 02:04:54,250 --> 02:04:51,440 California the Boston and working in 2447 02:04:57,160 --> 02:04:54,260 medicine on medical television programs 2448 02:05:00,130 --> 02:04:57,170 in Boston for a couple of years and then 2449 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:00,140 was hired at the CBS station in Denver 2450 02:05:06,340 --> 02:05:03,650 so I did not know anything about animal 2451 02:05:09,459 --> 02:05:06,350 mutilations and was learning from fellow 2452 02:05:11,890 --> 02:05:09,469 reporters in town that the animal 2453 02:05:15,669 --> 02:05:11,900 mutilations have been going on in cycles 2454 02:05:16,150 --> 02:05:15,679 all the way back to the early 60s so I 2455 02:05:20,350 --> 02:05:16,160 want to 2456 02:05:24,250 --> 02:05:20,360 to get to the bottom of it from 1979 2457 02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:24,260 when I began going out with a crew and 2458 02:05:30,040 --> 02:05:27,410 with sheriffs and deputies do scenes 2459 02:05:33,870 --> 02:05:30,050 where an animal looks as if it should be 2460 02:05:37,600 --> 02:05:33,880 able to get up these are that clean in 2461 02:05:40,750 --> 02:05:37,610 places where it is like face powder that 2462 02:05:41,920 --> 02:05:40,760 you would put on your face the dust is 2463 02:05:44,260 --> 02:05:41,930 perfect 2464 02:05:46,930 --> 02:05:44,270 they're not even weeds it can be like 2465 02:05:49,420 --> 02:05:46,940 that in Colorado and Utah and New Mexico 2466 02:05:53,310 --> 02:05:49,430 and in the West it's a face powder dust 2467 02:05:56,380 --> 02:05:53,320 and you come to a 17 hundred pound steer 2468 02:06:00,880 --> 02:05:56,390 that is lying in the middle of this dust 2469 02:06:05,110 --> 02:06:00,890 it has an ear missing eye tongue jaw 2470 02:06:10,870 --> 02:06:05,120 flesh genitals and rectum cored out all 2471 02:06:13,840 --> 02:06:10,880 without any fluid no blood nothing on 2472 02:06:17,410 --> 02:06:13,850 the ground and you stand there looking 2473 02:06:21,340 --> 02:06:17,420 at this animal and you realize there are 2474 02:06:24,460 --> 02:06:21,350 no tracks around this body there are not 2475 02:06:27,220 --> 02:06:24,470 even the hoof tracks of this animal and 2476 02:06:29,230 --> 02:06:27,230 you look up in the sky which is exactly 2477 02:06:31,810 --> 02:06:29,240 what law enforcement started doing in 2478 02:06:34,660 --> 02:06:31,820 the early 60s and concluding that 2479 02:06:37,900 --> 02:06:34,670 whatever happened the animal had to be 2480 02:06:41,640 --> 02:06:37,910 lowered to this site because on this 2481 02:06:44,700 --> 02:06:41,650 planet in normal earth matters any 2482 02:06:47,890 --> 02:06:44,710 animal under 8 let's say a predator 2483 02:06:50,170 --> 02:06:47,900 attacking a steer there's going to be 2484 02:06:53,200 --> 02:06:50,180 struggle there's going to be signs of 2485 02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:53,210 struggle in often when animals are dying 2486 02:06:59,260 --> 02:06:55,370 even if it was from something like 2487 02:07:01,950 --> 02:06:59,270 disease their legs will thrash and you 2488 02:07:06,730 --> 02:07:01,960 will get the motion on the ground 2489 02:07:09,250 --> 02:07:06,740 these are eerie because they are so 2490 02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:09,260 precise this is what has separated them 2491 02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:13,250 out for almost a hundred years now jump 2492 02:07:22,030 --> 02:07:17,000 to the cats it's the same bloodless 2493 02:07:25,360 --> 02:07:22,040 honest but the eeriness in the cat it 2494 02:07:28,090 --> 02:07:25,370 starts with the first cases that I ever 2495 02:07:30,270 --> 02:07:28,100 started to get information about and to 2496 02:07:35,350 --> 02:07:30,280 investigate goes back to 2497 02:07:37,210 --> 02:07:35,360 about the middle of the 1980s and I 2498 02:07:40,260 --> 02:07:37,220 believe those first cases that I 2499 02:07:43,150 --> 02:07:40,270 received were from Tustin California 2500 02:07:48,480 --> 02:07:43,160 right here in Southern California yes 2501 02:07:53,190 --> 02:07:48,490 and they were echoed in Austin Texas 2502 02:07:56,350 --> 02:07:53,200 Plano Texas Falls Church Virginia 2503 02:07:59,200 --> 02:07:56,360 Toronto Canada these are places that I 2504 02:08:01,750 --> 02:07:59,210 remember we're in the beginning and that 2505 02:08:05,620 --> 02:08:01,760 the cat half cats have cycled through 2506 02:08:06,340 --> 02:08:05,630 them constantly and that other parts of 2507 02:08:10,980 --> 02:08:06,350 the world 2508 02:08:15,070 --> 02:08:10,990 London England places in Malaysia in 2509 02:08:17,970 --> 02:08:15,080 Australia in New Zealand around the 2510 02:08:22,750 --> 02:08:17,980 world this is a total two hemispheres 2511 02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:22,760 phenomenon now in the beginning those 2512 02:08:31,180 --> 02:08:25,730 first cases I was involved with getting 2513 02:08:34,030 --> 02:08:31,190 a half cat body from Vancouver area from 2514 02:08:39,400 --> 02:08:34,040 an animal clinic where they had 30-some 2515 02:08:42,700 --> 02:08:39,410 cat cut in half so about the period of 2516 02:08:44,860 --> 02:08:42,710 time of the late 80s going into the very 2517 02:08:48,670 --> 02:08:44,870 early 90s we were getting almost 2518 02:08:51,190 --> 02:08:48,680 exclusively reports of half cats and 2519 02:08:54,280 --> 02:08:51,200 either the front half would be found or 2520 02:08:57,580 --> 02:08:54,290 the back half would be found rarely but 2521 02:09:00,490 --> 02:08:57,590 maybe three or four times both halves 2522 02:09:04,660 --> 02:09:00,500 would be there but a section in between 2523 02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:04,670 the two cats would be proved on x-ray 2524 02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:07,520 that a slice of the cat that we would 2525 02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:10,490 never have known had been removed so yet 2526 02:09:14,500 --> 02:09:11,930 a front half and a back half with a 2527 02:09:18,310 --> 02:09:14,510 slice removed otherwise they were top 2528 02:09:22,390 --> 02:09:18,320 cats front or back well I got a front 2529 02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:22,400 half of a gray angora cat the photos of 2530 02:09:27,550 --> 02:09:25,370 all of this are in my real x-files and I 2531 02:09:30,220 --> 02:09:27,560 keep them there by subscription which 2532 02:09:32,650 --> 02:09:30,230 protects children cannot just stumble 2533 02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:32,660 into these but for the people who are 2534 02:09:38,290 --> 02:09:35,450 interested in a phenomena that is 2535 02:09:41,860 --> 02:09:38,300 haunted law enforcement in the world for 2536 02:09:43,880 --> 02:09:41,870 nearly a century the animal mutilations 2537 02:09:46,040 --> 02:09:43,890 are in that category and I 2538 02:09:48,740 --> 02:09:46,050 hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of 2539 02:09:51,680 --> 02:09:48,750 photographs in the real x-files in all 2540 02:09:58,390 --> 02:09:51,690 of the various categories of cattle 2541 02:10:01,760 --> 02:09:58,400 horses pigs goats sheep a reindeer elk 2542 02:10:05,420 --> 02:10:01,770 deer it's so it's wild game its domestic 2543 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:05,430 animals and the cats when you get to the 2544 02:10:10,040 --> 02:10:08,010 cats and you look at all of the cat 2545 02:10:14,090 --> 02:10:10,050 mutilation reports the thing that would 2546 02:10:16,070 --> 02:10:14,100 hit you I know it sounds oh it sounds 2547 02:10:19,820 --> 02:10:16,080 like it would be gory it's the opposite 2548 02:10:23,300 --> 02:10:19,830 when you look at the photos they are so 2549 02:10:27,290 --> 02:10:23,310 pristine that you want to find out how 2550 02:10:30,410 --> 02:10:27,300 was this done and now currently there is 2551 02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:30,420 a new wrinkle after all of these years 2552 02:10:39,560 --> 02:10:35,210 of the half cats the beheaded cats the 2553 02:10:45,640 --> 02:10:39,570 dismembered cats when the New York Times 2554 02:10:49,040 --> 02:10:45,650 did this report on August 31st I was 2555 02:10:51,830 --> 02:10:49,050 noticing because it was so important and 2556 02:10:54,350 --> 02:10:51,840 I had been trying to get some 2557 02:10:58,460 --> 02:10:54,360 photographs from a veterinarian to show 2558 02:11:00,680 --> 02:10:58,470 this that the spine only are being 2559 02:11:04,430 --> 02:11:00,690 removed now the way it's been described 2560 02:11:07,970 --> 02:11:04,440 to me is that if you come down to the 2561 02:11:10,670 --> 02:11:07,980 base of the neck on your ownself and you 2562 02:11:13,370 --> 02:11:10,680 will feel that bone that is right in 2563 02:11:17,710 --> 02:11:13,380 between where then the clavicles go off 2564 02:11:21,560 --> 02:11:17,720 on your right and left shoulders imagine 2565 02:11:25,280 --> 02:11:21,570 having some kind of an instrument that 2566 02:11:29,570 --> 02:11:25,290 would not cause any blood on the skin or 2567 02:11:32,930 --> 02:11:29,580 the ligament or anything but you could 2568 02:11:37,400 --> 02:11:32,940 go into the bone cut it absolutely 2569 02:11:41,380 --> 02:11:37,410 cleanly then cut all the ribs off to the 2570 02:11:49,300 --> 02:11:41,390 base of the tail and then just remove 2571 02:11:54,830 --> 02:11:53,270 it's insane and I'm Linda really quick 2572 02:11:56,879 --> 02:11:54,840 for the audience 2573 02:12:00,120 --> 02:11:56,889 I just goo 2574 02:12:04,979 --> 02:12:00,130 right and I'm looking at Olympia 2575 02:12:09,030 --> 02:12:04,989 Washington San Diego I'm just going up 2576 02:12:11,910 --> 02:12:09,040 and down here this is going on all 2577 02:12:15,090 --> 02:12:11,920 around the country this isn't and the 2578 02:12:18,780 --> 02:12:15,100 dates on this July August August 2579 02:12:22,830 --> 02:12:18,790 September and that's just the first page 2580 02:12:26,910 --> 02:12:22,840 of August 28 a very simple google search 2581 02:12:31,140 --> 02:12:26,920 of which I had three hundred and fifty 2582 02:12:33,870 --> 02:12:31,150 one thousand results yeah exactly I mean 2583 02:12:37,229 --> 02:12:33,880 I'm right now just trying to get a 2584 02:12:39,720 --> 02:12:37,239 search under cap mutilations I'll do it 2585 02:12:42,899 --> 02:12:39,730 under half cats came up with four 2586 02:12:46,830 --> 02:12:42,909 hundred and eleven results at earthfiles 2587 02:12:50,189 --> 02:12:46,840 I know it was a lot and let me tell you 2588 02:12:54,060 --> 02:12:50,199 something that really is fascinating and 2589 02:12:56,910 --> 02:12:54,070 if any of the fade to black audience has 2590 02:12:58,320 --> 02:12:56,920 any more information about what I'm 2591 02:13:00,540 --> 02:12:58,330 going to say next 2592 02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:00,550 and yet you have had a military 2593 02:13:07,979 --> 02:13:03,010 background and you have been stationed 2594 02:13:10,290 --> 02:13:07,989 in Iran Iraq or Eritrea and you have any 2595 02:13:12,810 --> 02:13:10,300 passing knowledge about what I'm going 2596 02:13:16,530 --> 02:13:12,820 to say next I would greatly appreciate 2597 02:13:21,209 --> 02:13:16,540 hearing from anybody to my email which 2598 02:13:23,939 --> 02:13:21,219 is earth filed at Earth files.com always 2599 02:13:26,490 --> 02:13:23,949 think of a reporter who files news about 2600 02:13:32,220 --> 02:13:26,500 the earth earth files at Earth file 2601 02:13:37,080 --> 02:13:32,230 dot-com last year a whistleblower at a 2602 02:13:39,990 --> 02:13:37,090 conference approached me and said I want 2603 02:13:43,050 --> 02:13:40,000 you to know that I was on a mission and 2604 02:13:46,620 --> 02:13:43,060 those were the three countries Iran Iraq 2605 02:13:49,050 --> 02:13:46,630 and irit riah Eritrea is being northern 2606 02:13:50,030 --> 02:13:49,060 portion of Ethiopia where they've had 2607 02:13:55,350 --> 02:13:50,040 Wars 2608 02:14:00,780 --> 02:13:55,360 he said we have had losses of American 2609 02:14:02,310 --> 02:14:00,790 platoons and it's not been reported this 2610 02:14:05,390 --> 02:14:02,320 is not something that is common 2611 02:14:10,210 --> 02:14:05,400 knowledge but we have had entire 2612 02:14:12,490 --> 02:14:10,220 platoons disappear and he said I was on 2613 02:14:17,800 --> 02:14:12,500 mission to try to find out what is going 2614 02:14:21,130 --> 02:14:17,810 on and he said in these three areas we 2615 02:14:24,640 --> 02:14:21,140 have encountered they're not human and 2616 02:14:26,950 --> 02:14:24,650 we don't know what they are but we think 2617 02:14:30,100 --> 02:14:26,960 that they are involved with the 2618 02:14:35,520 --> 02:14:30,110 disappearance of the platoons and he 2619 02:14:40,230 --> 02:14:35,530 said one of their mos is to remove only 2620 02:14:45,580 --> 02:14:40,240 spines Wow 2621 02:14:50,230 --> 02:14:45,590 what is what is going on it's eerie and 2622 02:14:53,140 --> 02:14:50,240 if anybody listening I understand that 2623 02:14:53,800 --> 02:14:53,150 whistleblowers you you can communicate 2624 02:14:56,170 --> 02:14:53,810 with me 2625 02:14:58,270 --> 02:14:56,180 there are ways once you establish a 2626 02:15:00,910 --> 02:14:58,280 connection to me if we have to work 2627 02:15:03,910 --> 02:15:00,920 through Fed Ex or something but it's 2628 02:15:06,190 --> 02:15:03,920 really important I have been saying this 2629 02:15:08,860 --> 02:15:06,200 at conferences I have been getting more 2630 02:15:11,350 --> 02:15:08,870 information I would really like to know 2631 02:15:13,980 --> 02:15:11,360 if anybody out there with a military 2632 02:15:17,380 --> 02:15:13,990 background and I will never ever reveal 2633 02:15:20,160 --> 02:15:17,390 source name it's the ideas I would like 2634 02:15:22,980 --> 02:15:20,170 to know if there is anything currently 2635 02:15:28,210 --> 02:15:22,990 going on that falls into this category 2636 02:15:32,170 --> 02:15:28,220 and Jimmy if there is something in those 2637 02:15:35,080 --> 02:15:32,180 war zone areas that is maybe taking 2638 02:15:39,010 --> 02:15:35,090 advantage of wars that cover-up what it 2639 02:15:43,240 --> 02:15:39,020 does right is there some connection 2640 02:15:47,170 --> 02:15:43,250 about why the cycles of the half cat or 2641 02:15:47,800 --> 02:15:47,180 beheading cats dismembered cat or the 2642 02:15:52,540 --> 02:15:47,810 cats 2643 02:15:55,330 --> 02:15:52,550 now with the clean bloodless precise 2644 02:15:58,210 --> 02:15:55,340 removal of the spines as this man 2645 02:16:01,480 --> 02:15:58,220 described in those war zones is there 2646 02:16:04,420 --> 02:16:01,490 some link what would it be what could it 2647 02:16:07,030 --> 02:16:04,430 be what does all this mean but what 2648 02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:07,040 we're talking about now are facts these 2649 02:16:12,700 --> 02:16:09,170 are facts of things that are happening 2650 02:16:14,950 --> 02:16:12,710 on our planet and I don't think we 2651 02:16:18,190 --> 02:16:14,960 should be left in the dark I think that 2652 02:16:22,420 --> 02:16:18,200 the more we know the stronger we get and 2653 02:16:24,100 --> 02:16:22,430 maybe in in the strength of knowledge we 2654 02:16:26,800 --> 02:16:24,110 can help get some of this stuff 2655 02:16:31,540 --> 02:16:26,810 there's two things that we have to look 2656 02:16:34,060 --> 02:16:31,550 at here one if this is an Earthbound 2657 02:16:38,820 --> 02:16:34,070 situation if these are humans that are 2658 02:16:42,010 --> 02:16:38,830 doing it that is a despicable and and 2659 02:16:44,350 --> 02:16:42,020 disturbing thought there's that if it's 2660 02:16:48,459 --> 02:16:44,360 eartha if it's something else 2661 02:16:51,129 --> 02:16:48,469 Linda that is possibly off planet or you 2662 02:16:53,440 --> 02:16:51,139 know that is isn't human that is doing 2663 02:16:55,570 --> 02:16:53,450 this then we've got something else that 2664 02:16:57,250 --> 02:16:55,580 we need to explore here ultimately what 2665 02:17:00,070 --> 02:16:57,260 do you think is who do you think is 2666 02:17:03,160 --> 02:17:00,080 responsible for this I think it is not 2667 02:17:06,040 --> 02:17:03,170 homo sapien sapien but i do not think it 2668 02:17:08,980 --> 02:17:06,050 is extraterrestrial meaning off planet I 2669 02:17:12,669 --> 02:17:08,990 think it is non-human the alien presence 2670 02:17:16,180 --> 02:17:12,679 alluded to by John F Kennedy it has been 2671 02:17:17,140 --> 02:17:16,190 on this planet for millions of years it 2672 02:17:19,810 --> 02:17:17,150 cohabits 2673 02:17:21,520 --> 02:17:19,820 I used the metaphor of being in a 2674 02:17:26,230 --> 02:17:21,530 two-story apartment 2675 02:17:30,390 --> 02:17:26,240 we are the surface life down below this 2676 02:17:35,320 --> 02:17:30,400 rind that we live on or in the rind 2677 02:17:40,000 --> 02:17:35,330 could be huge caverns spaces abilities 2678 02:17:43,120 --> 02:17:40,010 to live inside of big mountain ranges to 2679 02:17:46,060 --> 02:17:43,130 go down below the basins of the oceans 2680 02:17:47,709 --> 02:17:46,070 in the seas meaning you go down six 2681 02:17:52,000 --> 02:17:47,719 miles to the bottom of the Mariana 2682 02:17:55,030 --> 02:17:52,010 Trench then you go down further that we 2683 02:17:58,120 --> 02:17:55,040 are not used to thinking in terms of the 2684 02:18:02,379 --> 02:17:58,130 spherical geometry of our planet at all 2685 02:18:05,770 --> 02:18:02,389 we are surface bound creatures we move 2686 02:18:09,339 --> 02:18:05,780 in Euclidean lines on the surface of 2687 02:18:11,919 --> 02:18:09,349 this enormous sphere the volume of the 2688 02:18:16,990 --> 02:18:11,929 sphere even though at the center there 2689 02:18:21,100 --> 02:18:17,000 is a crystal iron sphere that is 70% the 2690 02:18:26,020 --> 02:18:21,110 diameter of our Moon the iron core at 2691 02:18:31,110 --> 02:18:26,030 the center of our planet is 70% the 2692 02:18:36,550 --> 02:18:31,120 diameter of our Moon around it is a huge 2693 02:18:37,870 --> 02:18:36,560 like a sea of molten lava and they turn 2694 02:18:41,320 --> 02:18:37,880 that's the Dynamo 2695 02:18:44,889 --> 02:18:41,330 of Earth and then you get to the magma 2696 02:18:49,570 --> 02:18:44,899 jello that goes from the moving iron 2697 02:18:55,480 --> 02:18:49,580 sphere and you get up to where the rind 2698 02:18:59,080 --> 02:18:55,490 sits on top of the jello magma and we 2699 02:19:01,509 --> 02:18:59,090 are living only on the very tippy tippy 2700 02:19:04,839 --> 02:19:01,519 top of that rind which averages 2701 02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:04,849 somewhere between 15 to 25 miles deep 2702 02:19:11,139 --> 02:19:08,090 that is the rind of Earth that humans 2703 02:19:16,780 --> 02:19:11,149 live on we don't have any understanding 2704 02:19:19,629 --> 02:19:16,790 of how other intelligences with advanced 2705 02:19:23,020 --> 02:19:19,639 technologies could cohabit on this 2706 02:19:26,500 --> 02:19:23,030 planet without us ever knowing that they 2707 02:19:29,950 --> 02:19:26,510 were here and they could be here in huge 2708 02:19:36,459 --> 02:19:29,960 numbers I'm still not interacting with 2709 02:19:41,049 --> 02:19:36,469 us but harvesting from the surface it 2710 02:19:43,299 --> 02:19:41,059 reminds me of so many I hate to always 2711 02:19:45,310 --> 02:19:43,309 go back and and and and talk about 2712 02:19:48,490 --> 02:19:45,320 Hollywood and how this kind of stuff is 2713 02:19:50,740 --> 02:19:48,500 presented but for the audience that's 2714 02:19:52,540 --> 02:19:50,750 what they can relate to you know the 2715 02:19:57,790 --> 02:19:52,550 visual and the audio that they have seen 2716 02:19:59,920 --> 02:19:57,800 over the years is there is there the 2717 02:20:03,490 --> 02:19:59,930 possibility of the government knowing 2718 02:20:07,450 --> 02:20:03,500 about this and and maybe projecting this 2719 02:20:12,040 --> 02:20:07,460 idea on our subconscious subliminally 2720 02:20:15,940 --> 02:20:12,050 through multimedia well I think that the 2721 02:20:18,670 --> 02:20:15,950 CIA has used Hollywood ever since the 2722 02:20:21,250 --> 02:20:18,680 day the Earth Stood Still and in order 2723 02:20:24,460 --> 02:20:21,260 to test what they learn to see how the 2724 02:20:26,770 --> 02:20:24,470 public reacts and the Day the Earth 2725 02:20:30,900 --> 02:20:26,780 Stood Still Michael Rennie and the robot 2726 02:20:35,050 --> 02:20:30,910 and it was what extraterrestrial 2727 02:20:38,110 --> 02:20:35,060 intelligences that used our planet and 2728 02:20:41,380 --> 02:20:38,120 knew that what we were doing was going 2729 02:20:44,440 --> 02:20:41,390 to end up hurting this planet and they 2730 02:20:47,679 --> 02:20:44,450 were here to demonstrate what they could 2731 02:20:49,570 --> 02:20:47,689 do by shutting down all power in LA or 2732 02:20:51,461 --> 02:20:49,580 whichever city or whatever and they 2733 02:20:53,560 --> 02:20:51,471 could do it around the world 2734 02:20:54,730 --> 02:20:53,570 and that was the demonstration the Day 2735 02:20:58,780 --> 02:20:54,740 the Earth Stood Still 2736 02:21:03,131 --> 02:20:58,790 this massive power control that the 2737 02:21:07,180 --> 02:21:03,141 extra-terrestrial with wasn't it was it 2738 02:21:09,070 --> 02:21:07,190 yeah I too was the robot and gore it was 2739 02:21:09,911 --> 02:21:09,080 a humanoid or the other way around the 2740 02:21:13,421 --> 02:21:09,921 other way around 2741 02:21:16,511 --> 02:21:13,431 yeah yeah Dorit was the robot in Klaatu 2742 02:21:19,841 --> 02:21:16,521 was the Michael Rennie right yes and 2743 02:21:26,560 --> 02:21:19,851 that in the end it was a very sobering 2744 02:21:31,091 --> 02:21:26,570 film with a message you we will we will 2745 02:21:35,081 --> 02:21:31,101 do something to control you inhibit you 2746 02:21:37,180 --> 02:21:35,091 if you don't stop atomic war testing if 2747 02:21:39,150 --> 02:21:37,190 you don't and that was the under theme 2748 02:21:41,911 --> 02:21:39,160 of the Day the Earth Stood Still 2749 02:21:44,801 --> 02:21:41,921 warnings and demonstrations of 2750 02:21:48,450 --> 02:21:44,811 technological superiority that scared 2751 02:21:50,831 --> 02:21:48,460 our military well since then we've had 2752 02:21:53,470 --> 02:21:50,841 everything that you can imagine being 2753 02:21:57,100 --> 02:21:53,480 tested on us multiple dimensions time 2754 02:22:01,001 --> 02:21:57,110 travel all of the Star Wars series going 2755 02:22:05,860 --> 02:22:01,011 out into Star Trek and on and on and so 2756 02:22:09,070 --> 02:22:05,870 at this point in 2018 we are seeing more 2757 02:22:12,041 --> 02:22:09,080 and more in television and an end in 2758 02:22:16,230 --> 02:22:12,051 films that are becoming so sophisticated 2759 02:22:19,001 --> 02:22:16,240 that we are now beginning to talk about 2760 02:22:21,671 --> 02:22:19,011 other-dimensional that that we are 2761 02:22:23,801 --> 02:22:21,681 dealing with technologies that can go 2762 02:22:26,110 --> 02:22:23,811 from the matter universe into another 2763 02:22:29,350 --> 02:22:26,120 dimension like a cushion shot on a pool 2764 02:22:32,650 --> 02:22:29,360 table and then flip back into this 2765 02:22:35,140 --> 02:22:32,660 matter universe cover let's say three 2766 02:22:35,740 --> 02:22:35,150 billion light years and do it in five 2767 02:22:38,940 --> 02:22:35,750 minutes 2768 02:22:42,421 --> 02:22:38,950 because they're using the space-time 2769 02:22:44,501 --> 02:22:42,431 point-to-point travel we only know 2770 02:22:47,350 --> 02:22:44,511 Euclidean geometry 2771 02:22:49,990 --> 02:22:47,360 we're like ants and we just move around 2772 02:22:53,560 --> 02:22:50,000 the surface of this eight thousand mile 2773 02:22:55,511 --> 02:22:53,570 diameter sphere if you are advanced and 2774 02:22:58,121 --> 02:22:55,521 you understand how to deal with 2775 02:23:01,570 --> 02:22:58,131 spherical geometry and magnetic fields 2776 02:23:04,600 --> 02:23:01,580 then your ability to use this earth and 2777 02:23:04,991 --> 02:23:04,610 all of the planetary bodies in ways that 2778 02:23:08,051 --> 02:23:05,001 human 2779 02:23:10,691 --> 02:23:08,061 can't even comprehend is going to be so 2780 02:23:12,551 --> 02:23:10,701 vastly superior and the idea that we're 2781 02:23:14,951 --> 02:23:12,561 on a planet that has been like a 2782 02:23:18,581 --> 02:23:14,961 two-story apartment building for 2783 02:23:19,421 --> 02:23:18,591 millions of years and humans Homo Sapien 2784 02:23:22,511 --> 02:23:19,431 sapien 2785 02:23:25,751 --> 02:23:22,521 this current model in terms of the 2786 02:23:28,810 --> 02:23:25,761 overlap with neanderthalensis is only 2787 02:23:32,310 --> 02:23:28,820 about 45,000 years old compared to 2788 02:23:35,761 --> 02:23:32,320 millions of years and how does how does 2789 02:23:40,091 --> 02:23:35,771 Antarctica play into this Hollow Earth 2790 02:23:43,091 --> 02:23:40,101 possibility and concept of what's been 2791 02:23:45,310 --> 02:23:43,101 talked about for so long now that these 2792 02:23:48,551 --> 02:23:45,320 entrances are there these openings are 2793 02:23:50,890 --> 02:23:48,561 there there's access to it and if this 2794 02:23:55,060 --> 02:23:50,900 is indeed playing out with you know cat 2795 02:23:57,881 --> 02:23:55,070 mutilations or platoons and in Africa is 2796 02:24:01,361 --> 02:23:57,891 is this ultimately what is going on 2797 02:24:05,651 --> 02:24:01,371 Linda well Jimmy first it isn't Hollow 2798 02:24:07,720 --> 02:24:05,661 Earth Hollow Earth that is where people 2799 02:24:10,591 --> 02:24:07,730 have drawn that at the center of the 2800 02:24:14,020 --> 02:24:10,601 earth there is this other place where 2801 02:24:17,441 --> 02:24:14,030 creatures live know at the center of our 2802 02:24:20,470 --> 02:24:17,451 earth is this iron crystal sphere that 2803 02:24:23,020 --> 02:24:20,480 is two-thirds the size of the moon it is 2804 02:24:26,470 --> 02:24:23,030 surrounded by all of this lava you come 2805 02:24:30,821 --> 02:24:26,480 up into magma you have to get up to the 2806 02:24:32,980 --> 02:24:30,831 rind think of an orange the orange just 2807 02:24:37,211 --> 02:24:32,990 the rind of the orange all of the 2808 02:24:41,020 --> 02:24:37,221 interior part is not habitable it's only 2809 02:24:44,230 --> 02:24:41,030 in the rind and so we are on the surface 2810 02:24:45,331 --> 02:24:44,240 of the rind the rind is on the surface 2811 02:24:48,850 --> 02:24:45,341 of this 2812 02:24:52,631 --> 02:24:48,860 8,000 mile diameter planet right 2813 02:24:57,401 --> 02:24:52,641 but in that rind around the world and 2814 02:25:01,331 --> 02:24:57,411 inside of mountains and below the basins 2815 02:25:03,131 --> 02:25:01,341 of oceans and seas it doesn't mean 2816 02:25:05,051 --> 02:25:03,141 you're going into the center of the 2817 02:25:07,831 --> 02:25:05,061 earth it means that you have 2818 02:25:11,111 --> 02:25:07,841 technologies that know how to go down 2819 02:25:12,191 --> 02:25:11,121 the deepest I think is a mark Mariana 2820 02:25:14,831 --> 02:25:12,201 Trench 2821 02:25:17,381 --> 02:25:14,841 I believe the deepest part is six and a 2822 02:25:18,770 --> 02:25:17,391 half miles or seven at most something 2823 02:25:21,650 --> 02:25:18,780 like that so that's the deep 2824 02:25:25,940 --> 02:25:21,660 Oshin so think that we're in a right 2825 02:25:30,380 --> 02:25:25,950 have a rind that averages between 15 to 2826 02:25:33,890 --> 02:25:30,390 25 miles that so the deepest ocean is 2827 02:25:38,420 --> 02:25:33,900 only six or seven of that right so the 2828 02:25:41,180 --> 02:25:38,430 rind of the earth is where the action is 2829 02:25:44,540 --> 02:25:41,190 in the United States there was somebody 2830 02:25:47,330 --> 02:25:44,550 in a whistle-blower type a year or two 2831 02:25:50,390 --> 02:25:47,340 ago he said to me Linda the most 2832 02:25:55,220 --> 02:25:50,400 important military and technology action 2833 02:25:58,010 --> 02:25:55,230 of our country is all underground yeah 2834 02:26:00,790 --> 02:25:58,020 and it's only as far as you know it's 2835 02:26:05,320 --> 02:26:00,800 25,000 feet we're not talking about 2836 02:26:08,060 --> 02:26:05,330 getting into this molten liquid iron 2837 02:26:11,240 --> 02:26:08,070 section of the planet we're talking 2838 02:26:14,180 --> 02:26:11,250 about right here on the surface well and 2839 02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:14,190 remember if it's an average if it's an 2840 02:26:28,730 --> 02:26:22,650 average of 15 to 25 miles it's more than 2841 02:26:31,460 --> 02:26:28,740 25 so it's 20 15 to 25 miles it is 2842 02:26:33,260 --> 02:26:31,470 the rind itself is thinner in some 2843 02:26:37,910 --> 02:26:33,270 places and thicker that's why they say 2844 02:26:40,490 --> 02:26:37,920 15 to 25 miles in average right that is 2845 02:26:44,450 --> 02:26:40,500 the surface so you would if you went 2846 02:26:47,660 --> 02:26:44,460 down 15 miles in one place you would 2847 02:26:51,680 --> 02:26:47,670 probably be in heat and getting into 2848 02:26:54,200 --> 02:26:51,690 where there would be heat from magma and 2849 02:26:57,440 --> 02:26:54,210 another place you might be able to go 25 2850 02:26:59,900 --> 02:26:57,450 miles but anyway you cut it it's still a 2851 02:27:02,990 --> 02:26:59,910 Rhine just like a thick rind on an 2852 02:27:06,230 --> 02:27:03,000 orange in which we live only on the 2853 02:27:09,320 --> 02:27:06,240 surface if our deepest ocean only goes 2854 02:27:13,370 --> 02:27:09,330 down six miles think of all of that 2855 02:27:17,210 --> 02:27:13,380 territory and that is where an alien 2856 02:27:22,040 --> 02:27:17,220 intelligence allegedly has been using 2857 02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:22,050 coming based now to address this other 2858 02:27:28,750 --> 02:27:25,290 issue of fear I personally don't feel 2859 02:27:32,510 --> 02:27:28,760 any fear whatsoever for these reasons 2860 02:27:34,670 --> 02:27:32,520 when it was John Burroughs and I were 2861 02:27:37,189 --> 02:27:34,680 doing a phenomenon radio three years ago 2862 02:27:39,620 --> 02:27:37,199 with Lynn Buchanan who was one of the 2863 02:27:43,010 --> 02:27:39,630 very talented remote viewers on that 2864 02:27:45,109 --> 02:27:43,020 project Stargate that was in there about 2865 02:27:47,450 --> 02:27:45,119 seven or eight very talented remote 2866 02:27:50,510 --> 02:27:47,460 viewers they were housed at Fort Meade 2867 02:27:52,370 --> 02:27:50,520 the big shiny National Security Agency 2868 02:27:56,330 --> 02:27:52,380 building was next door they were in an 2869 02:28:00,439 --> 02:27:56,340 old barracks kitchen building but Lynn 2870 02:28:02,719 --> 02:28:00,449 said that they all at one point or 2871 02:28:04,700 --> 02:28:02,729 another had tasks having to do with 2872 02:28:08,120 --> 02:28:04,710 other intelligence other life in the 2873 02:28:09,760 --> 02:28:08,130 universe and he said they all got that 2874 02:28:12,500 --> 02:28:09,770 the universe is teeming with 2875 02:28:16,819 --> 02:28:12,510 intelligence teeming with some kind of 2876 02:28:22,660 --> 02:28:16,829 consciousness and Wenda it's the way he 2877 02:28:26,179 --> 02:28:22,670 said it Linda if we didn't have allies 2878 02:28:28,929 --> 02:28:26,189 humanity would not be here because there 2879 02:28:32,870 --> 02:28:28,939 are things out there that are dangerous 2880 02:28:35,899 --> 02:28:32,880 but we have allies and they know how to 2881 02:28:39,679 --> 02:28:35,909 fight those dangers and there are a lot 2882 02:28:42,349 --> 02:28:39,689 of protectors of humanity and I believe 2883 02:28:46,490 --> 02:28:42,359 that I think that is absolutely true in 2884 02:28:49,130 --> 02:28:46,500 many ways we are like babies and we are 2885 02:28:51,740 --> 02:28:49,140 like babies that were created on this 2886 02:28:56,059 --> 02:28:51,750 planet by something else to be monitored 2887 02:28:59,990 --> 02:28:56,069 harvested used to manipulate genetic 2888 02:29:02,960 --> 02:29:00,000 evolution and we purposely apparently 2889 02:29:06,170 --> 02:29:02,970 been kept in the dark about what our 2890 02:29:10,460 --> 02:29:06,180 original source was what is the original 2891 02:29:13,700 --> 02:29:10,470 source of DNA that DNA molecule of 2892 02:29:17,540 --> 02:29:13,710 Francis Crick who got the Nobel Prize 2893 02:29:18,200 --> 02:29:17,550 for discovering the shape the double 2894 02:29:21,740 --> 02:29:18,210 helix 2895 02:29:24,559 --> 02:29:21,750 he was along with Leslie Orgel a 2896 02:29:28,849 --> 02:29:24,569 brilliant biochemist they said there is 2897 02:29:31,729 --> 02:29:28,859 no possibility that on a 8,000 mile 2898 02:29:36,170 --> 02:29:31,739 diameter 25,000 mile circumference 2899 02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:36,180 planet that you would have only one DNA 2900 02:29:44,240 --> 02:29:41,010 molecule that every single thing on this 2901 02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:44,250 planet from from the beginning going 2902 02:29:49,670 --> 02:29:46,560 back as far as they could find 2903 02:29:53,750 --> 02:29:49,680 the first cells that there's nothing 2904 02:29:56,540 --> 02:29:53,760 else but the double-helix molecule and 2905 02:29:58,700 --> 02:29:56,550 that's why they did a brilliant article 2906 02:30:01,070 --> 02:29:58,710 it was published in Icarus back in the 2907 02:30:04,310 --> 02:30:01,080 nineteen I think late 1970s I have a 2908 02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:04,320 copy of it someplace and they they said 2909 02:30:10,280 --> 02:30:07,410 in the Icarus it was the logical 2910 02:30:14,240 --> 02:30:10,290 conclusion is that directed panspermia 2911 02:30:17,930 --> 02:30:14,250 is the answer to lose this life on Earth 2912 02:30:23,090 --> 02:30:17,940 directed panspermia means I deliberate 2913 02:30:28,580 --> 02:30:23,100 placement seeding of the DNA molecule on 2914 02:30:31,310 --> 02:30:28,590 this planet then what is the origin of 2915 02:30:34,340 --> 02:30:31,320 that DNA molecule 2916 02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:34,350 how many DNA molecules on how many 2917 02:30:41,510 --> 02:30:38,010 planets throughout this 13.8 billion 2918 02:30:44,440 --> 02:30:41,520 light year universe are there and are we 2919 02:30:47,920 --> 02:30:44,450 on a planet where there is tremendous 2920 02:30:50,810 --> 02:30:47,930 interaction by other forms of life 2921 02:30:54,560 --> 02:30:50,820 specifically because we have genetic 2922 02:30:57,260 --> 02:30:54,570 connections to whatever is out there 2923 02:30:59,420 --> 02:30:57,270 through the DNA molecule to me this is 2924 02:31:01,880 --> 02:30:59,430 one of the most exciting areas I think 2925 02:31:05,180 --> 02:31:01,890 it's going to continue to grow and grow 2926 02:31:08,930 --> 02:31:05,190 we're finding out so much now by 2927 02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:08,940 analyzing the DNA molecule and did you 2928 02:31:14,750 --> 02:31:11,730 know that it was only in the last couple 2929 02:31:18,260 --> 02:31:14,760 of years that researchers in a lab were 2930 02:31:23,660 --> 02:31:18,270 able to take a piece of rock music and 2931 02:31:27,290 --> 02:31:23,670 they embedded it in a portion of a DNA 2932 02:31:30,230 --> 02:31:27,300 molecule on purpose they were testing 2933 02:31:33,860 --> 02:31:30,240 the hypothesis that DNA is essentially 2934 02:31:37,880 --> 02:31:33,870 like a mathematical computer they took 2935 02:31:40,460 --> 02:31:37,890 this phrase of music put it in a DNA 2936 02:31:43,880 --> 02:31:40,470 molecule and they were able to extract 2937 02:31:46,490 --> 02:31:43,890 the music from the DNA molecules I know 2938 02:31:57,020 --> 02:31:46,500 I knew these articles I knew Led 2939 02:31:59,420 --> 02:31:57,030 Zeppelin was et TNA is absolutely 2940 02:32:00,139 --> 02:31:59,430 incredible the more you study it the 2941 02:32:03,830 --> 02:32:00,149 more 2942 02:32:08,569 --> 02:32:03,840 we are and do you remember it was a last 2943 02:32:11,840 --> 02:32:08,579 month when 20 I think it was either 20 2944 02:32:16,790 --> 02:32:11,850 or 40 scientists came out and backed up 2945 02:32:20,319 --> 02:32:16,800 this study that octopus octopi had to be 2946 02:32:24,019 --> 02:32:20,329 alien that there is no other explanation 2947 02:32:26,449 --> 02:32:24,029 for the uniqueness of octopus here on 2948 02:32:29,149 --> 02:32:26,459 this planet because it was unlike any 2949 02:32:31,489 --> 02:32:29,159 other species on this planet and it was 2950 02:32:34,969 --> 02:32:31,499 so unique that it had to have been 2951 02:32:38,540 --> 02:32:34,979 delivered here and I read that article 2952 02:32:42,880 --> 02:32:38,550 and Jimmy the part that was really eerie 2953 02:32:46,909 --> 02:32:42,890 is the intelligence of the octopi 2954 02:32:49,550 --> 02:32:46,919 octopus in laboratories where humans 2955 02:32:52,670 --> 02:32:49,560 have had to work around them did you 2956 02:32:57,590 --> 02:32:52,680 read the story it was a female lab 2957 02:33:02,569 --> 02:32:57,600 worker and she talked about how they 2958 02:33:06,939 --> 02:33:02,579 began to be almost concerned about the 2959 02:33:10,909 --> 02:33:06,949 high IQ of an octopus that every single 2960 02:33:15,229 --> 02:33:10,919 time she walked in that lab that octopus 2961 02:33:17,210 --> 02:33:15,239 would send a straight line of water 2962 02:33:20,719 --> 02:33:17,220 however they were able to do it the 2963 02:33:23,149 --> 02:33:20,729 octopus would SAP her with water and she 2964 02:33:25,819 --> 02:33:23,159 would try everything she would bend down 2965 02:33:28,159 --> 02:33:25,829 she tried wearing different clothes they 2966 02:33:30,439 --> 02:33:28,169 all of these things trying because they 2967 02:33:33,349 --> 02:33:30,449 were aware that the octopus for reasons 2968 02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:33,359 unknown had her as a target for this 2969 02:33:39,710 --> 02:33:36,329 water it wasn't hurting her it was but 2970 02:33:41,630 --> 02:33:39,720 the octopus was doing this when no 2971 02:33:45,319 --> 02:33:41,640 matter what she did 2972 02:33:48,380 --> 02:33:45,329 the octopus knew it was her even when 2973 02:33:50,149 --> 02:33:48,390 she was trying to hide and still zapped 2974 02:33:52,580 --> 02:33:50,159 her with that water and they were 2975 02:33:55,609 --> 02:33:52,590 talking about that but the level of 2976 02:33:59,120 --> 02:33:55,619 intelligence the level of the ability to 2977 02:34:02,090 --> 02:33:59,130 hold that skill and make that one stream 2978 02:34:05,330 --> 02:34:02,100 of water that always hit its target I 2979 02:34:09,649 --> 02:34:05,340 mean that's eerie that's eerie you know 2980 02:34:12,019 --> 02:34:09,659 what no more calamari for me I just feel 2981 02:34:13,640 --> 02:34:12,029 strange about it and the the 2982 02:34:17,930 --> 02:34:13,650 intelligence of the IQ 2983 02:34:21,440 --> 02:34:17,940 the way that they presented it here not 2984 02:34:24,110 --> 02:34:21,450 only smart on this planet just smart in 2985 02:34:27,530 --> 02:34:24,120 general and quite simply are just as 2986 02:34:31,310 --> 02:34:27,540 smart as humans on every level and I 2987 02:34:35,360 --> 02:34:31,320 just feel I feel strange I feel strange 2988 02:34:37,250 --> 02:34:35,370 about the mistreatment and and I didn't 2989 02:34:41,120 --> 02:34:37,260 it didn't it didn't weren't you taken 2990 02:34:44,180 --> 02:34:41,130 aback a little bit well last year one of 2991 02:34:45,110 --> 02:34:44,190 the greatest films of all time visitor 2992 02:34:49,460 --> 02:34:45,120 arrivals 2993 02:34:53,060 --> 02:34:49,470 yeah the arrival that creatures looked 2994 02:34:55,580 --> 02:34:53,070 like some kind of octopi standing on 2995 02:34:57,620 --> 02:34:55,590 tentacles no doubt about it and I felt 2996 02:35:00,320 --> 02:34:57,630 the hidden message there after that 2997 02:35:02,570 --> 02:35:00,330 report came out last month the first 2998 02:35:04,280 --> 02:35:02,580 thing I did is went to read him when DC 2999 02:35:06,530 --> 02:35:04,290 we knew that there was something about 3000 02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:06,540 that movie and I'm not kidding about 3001 02:35:13,310 --> 02:35:09,650 that I'm not reaching here Linda can 3002 02:35:16,910 --> 02:35:13,320 Jimmy the great thing about it was the 3003 02:35:23,410 --> 02:35:16,920 message of that entire film was that 3004 02:35:26,750 --> 02:35:23,420 these creatures had come back in time 3005 02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:26,760 like 3,000 years I believe it was 3006 02:35:34,730 --> 02:35:31,050 because something was going to happen 3007 02:35:38,480 --> 02:35:34,740 and they that whole movie what had these 3008 02:35:41,450 --> 02:35:38,490 layers about these beings were testing 3009 02:35:46,450 --> 02:35:41,460 us they were trying to communicate with 3010 02:35:49,880 --> 02:35:46,460 us in order to save something about them 3011 02:35:53,420 --> 02:35:49,890 3,000 years in the future I know it was 3012 02:35:56,960 --> 02:35:53,430 a very complicated film and that the 3013 02:35:59,870 --> 02:35:56,970 idea of them squirting the ink of all 3014 02:36:03,700 --> 02:35:59,880 things as a metaphor the the printing 3015 02:36:07,490 --> 02:36:03,710 press our whole human family the 3016 02:36:10,160 --> 02:36:07,500 evolution that was you might say the 3017 02:36:13,520 --> 02:36:10,170 fire signal of it all is when we began 3018 02:36:16,341 --> 02:36:13,530 to be able to work in symbols and print 3019 02:36:19,460 --> 02:36:16,351 and communicate on paper and then 3020 02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:19,470 eventually today in digital but with the 3021 02:36:27,020 --> 02:36:22,530 squirting of the ink that we think of an 3022 02:36:30,140 --> 02:36:27,030 octopi that she the the female 3023 02:36:32,750 --> 02:36:30,150 who was so intuitive that she began to 3024 02:36:36,860 --> 02:36:32,760 understand that there was communication 3025 02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:36,870 in those ink blots on the glass and that 3026 02:36:42,710 --> 02:36:40,170 the ripple of metaphor the ripple of 3027 02:36:45,980 --> 02:36:42,720 layers of information that was in that 3028 02:36:48,620 --> 02:36:45,990 film and that it makes you stand back 3029 02:36:52,160 --> 02:36:48,630 and realize they they looked like 3030 02:36:55,400 --> 02:36:52,170 standing up octopi it was beautifully 3031 02:36:59,450 --> 02:36:55,410 done building up the mr. mystery about 3032 02:37:03,200 --> 02:36:59,460 them and then in the end to realize they 3033 02:37:07,030 --> 02:37:03,210 actually cared about some kind of a 3034 02:37:09,910 --> 02:37:07,040 survival issue far in the future if when 3035 02:37:14,210 --> 02:37:09,920 when Rita and I left the movie theater 3036 02:37:17,780 --> 02:37:14,220 after watching that I I was pretty 3037 02:37:20,120 --> 02:37:17,790 melancholy and she I felt strange and I 3038 02:37:22,730 --> 02:37:20,130 just I just didn't feel you know I felt 3039 02:37:25,460 --> 02:37:22,740 strange about it and she turned to me 3040 02:37:29,030 --> 02:37:25,470 and said so what did you think and I 3041 02:37:34,340 --> 02:37:29,040 said you know there is a message here I 3042 02:37:37,970 --> 02:37:34,350 something is being communicated to us 3043 02:37:40,130 --> 02:37:37,980 via that film it was so complicated and 3044 02:37:42,890 --> 02:37:40,140 I was trying to make sense of it all but 3045 02:37:45,170 --> 02:37:42,900 it wasn't your typical Hollywood movie 3046 02:37:45,800 --> 02:37:45,180 to me that there was there was something 3047 02:37:48,080 --> 02:37:45,810 there 3048 02:37:53,390 --> 02:37:48,090 meant for us to figure out and and 3049 02:37:56,630 --> 02:37:53,400 Shammi all of it was about time yes what 3050 02:37:57,650 --> 02:37:56,640 she was obsessed with and it all had to 3051 02:38:01,610 --> 02:37:57,660 do with that 3052 02:38:05,630 --> 02:38:01,620 replaying of time and the signals from 3053 02:38:06,500 --> 02:38:05,640 that we get at every moment we call it 3054 02:38:08,780 --> 02:38:06,510 the present 3055 02:38:11,750 --> 02:38:08,790 I say present and it's already the past 3056 02:38:13,970 --> 02:38:11,760 and we can't grab the present because 3057 02:38:17,660 --> 02:38:13,980 it's always going from the past into the 3058 02:38:20,810 --> 02:38:17,670 future and that everything in that film 3059 02:38:23,210 --> 02:38:20,820 from the creatures and why they came and 3060 02:38:26,930 --> 02:38:23,220 what they were trying to do was to have 3061 02:38:29,570 --> 02:38:26,940 an interaction with humans in such a way 3062 02:38:33,140 --> 02:38:29,580 that they would cause a cushion shot 3063 02:38:35,270 --> 02:38:33,150 they would change a future that might 3064 02:38:37,880 --> 02:38:35,280 have been disastrous for both humans and 3065 02:38:39,160 --> 02:38:37,890 them that was the bottom line of that 3066 02:38:42,219 --> 02:38:39,170 film yep 3067 02:38:45,070 --> 02:38:42,229 amy adams was incredible in their film 3068 02:38:47,170 --> 02:38:45,080 she was just so good Linda thank you so 3069 02:38:49,929 --> 02:38:47,180 much for taking the time out of your 3070 02:38:53,140 --> 02:38:49,939 very very busy week we've had so much 3071 02:38:54,820 --> 02:38:53,150 going on in this community and and to 3072 02:38:58,179 --> 02:38:54,830 have you you know sit down with us 3073 02:39:00,940 --> 02:38:58,189 tonight was just I'm very thankful 3074 02:39:04,750 --> 02:39:00,950 so just well it was wonderful Jimmy this 3075 02:39:06,550 --> 02:39:04,760 is great I look forward to doing it 3076 02:39:08,650 --> 02:39:06,560 again with you at some point and from 3077 02:39:11,080 --> 02:39:08,660 hearing from your fade to black 3078 02:39:12,969 --> 02:39:11,090 anybody out there whistleblowers with 3079 02:39:16,750 --> 02:39:12,979 information to earth files that are 3080 02:39:18,460 --> 02:39:16,760 files.com and I hope that we're going to 3081 02:39:21,640 --> 02:39:18,470 get that breakthrough headline and then 3082 02:39:24,250 --> 02:39:21,650 you I and all of us all boats will rise 3083 02:39:28,000 --> 02:39:24,260 and people on the planet will understand 3084 02:39:31,780 --> 02:39:28,010 we have been trying to deal with facts 3085 02:39:34,210 --> 02:39:31,790 and the truth who's on phenomenon with a 3086 02:39:37,950 --> 02:39:34,220 you and John this week Bassett the 3087 02:39:42,610 --> 02:39:37,960 passengers talk about the fact that Lou 3088 02:39:46,390 --> 02:39:42,620 Elizondo the to the stars who worked in 3089 02:39:51,630 --> 02:39:46,400 the Pentagon on the a tip program he has 3090 02:39:55,870 --> 02:39:51,640 been saying repeatedly to groups you all 3091 02:40:01,090 --> 02:39:55,880 UFO investigators researchers organizers 3092 02:40:05,650 --> 02:40:01,100 you have been right all along and that 3093 02:40:08,020 --> 02:40:05,660 is a huge sea change that is somebody 3094 02:40:09,730 --> 02:40:08,030 who worked in the Pentagon who is going 3095 02:40:14,170 --> 02:40:09,740 around and talking publicly and that 3096 02:40:16,120 --> 02:40:14,180 they are saying that we have to get back 3097 02:40:18,670 --> 02:40:16,130 engineering from the black world into 3098 02:40:21,940 --> 02:40:18,680 the white world we have to acknowledge 3099 02:40:23,910 --> 02:40:21,950 that what so many of you as 3100 02:40:26,020 --> 02:40:23,920 investigators journalists and 3101 02:40:29,020 --> 02:40:26,030 organizations have been trying to do 3102 02:40:32,469 --> 02:40:29,030 while you have been people have thrown 3103 02:40:35,980 --> 02:40:32,479 rocks at you it's not deserved that you 3104 02:40:38,800 --> 02:40:35,990 have and are talking about that which we 3105 02:40:41,290 --> 02:40:38,810 know is real that is great and if this 3106 02:40:44,920 --> 02:40:41,300 keeps going in if Lou Elizondo and to 3107 02:40:47,469 --> 02:40:44,930 the stars and collaborators and maybe 3108 02:40:50,020 --> 02:40:47,479 hearings behind the hearings in Congress 3109 02:40:51,670 --> 02:40:50,030 I keep hearing behind the scenes we're 3110 02:40:53,501 --> 02:40:51,680 going to be talking about all of that 3111 02:40:55,930 --> 02:40:53,511 was Steve Bassett on 3112 02:40:59,530 --> 02:40:55,940 sounds exciting sounds exciting and also 3113 02:41:03,220 --> 02:40:59,540 you should go and check out our good 3114 02:41:06,011 --> 02:41:03,230 friend John Greenwald's open letter to 3115 02:41:08,801 --> 02:41:06,021 TT essay that he published today so I'll 3116 02:41:09,671 --> 02:41:08,811 leave that to you they have it there you 3117 02:41:12,251 --> 02:41:09,681 go 3118 02:41:15,341 --> 02:41:12,261 we'll see you know fingers crossed Linda 3119 02:41:16,930 --> 02:41:15,351 fingers are crossed thank you and if I 3120 02:41:19,600 --> 02:41:16,940 don't see you before I'll see you at 3121 02:41:20,950 --> 02:41:19,610 conscious life conscious life Expo 3122 02:41:23,801 --> 02:41:20,960 you're going to be on my panel again 3123 02:41:26,430 --> 02:41:23,811 this year you know that right I'll see 3124 02:41:29,580 --> 02:41:26,440 you then thank you so much thank you 3125 02:41:31,930 --> 02:41:29,590 Linda Moulton Howe Earth files.com 3126 02:41:35,140 --> 02:41:31,940 everybody go over there and check it out 3127 02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:35,150 I'll open up the phones now Wow 3128 02:41:41,189 --> 02:41:38,890 everybody's going nuts okay all right 3129 02:41:43,290 --> 02:41:41,199 there you go I'll open up the phones 3130 02:41:46,270 --> 02:41:43,300 that I come back this is fade to black 3131 02:41:59,111 --> 02:41:46,280 I'm your signature stay with me 3132 02:42:02,331 --> 02:41:59,121 [Music] 3133 02:42:07,731 --> 02:42:02,341 and you are listen to my boy Jimmy 3134 02:42:10,970 --> 02:42:07,741 Church Jimmy Church radio.com despite 3135 02:42:21,281 --> 02:42:10,980 popular opinion reading a book will not 3136 02:42:24,921 --> 02:42:21,291 make you smarter hurricanes earthquakes 3137 02:42:27,381 --> 02:42:24,931 wildfires this year we've experienced 3138 02:42:29,691 --> 02:42:27,391 more than our fair share this is Jimmy 3139 02:42:31,851 --> 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02:45:35,690 --> 02:45:33,690 very best in paranormal talk 3209 02:45:37,461 --> 02:45:35,700 entertainment including the network 3210 02:45:40,400 --> 02:45:37,471 you're listening to right now the 3211 02:45:49,889 --> 02:45:40,410 paranormal radio app free in Google Play 3212 02:46:04,450 --> 02:45:53,620 it's not a lifestyle we chose we were 3213 02:46:07,380 --> 02:46:04,460 born this way k GRA radio.com this is KJ 3214 02:46:20,909 --> 02:46:07,390 CRA Jimmy search radiojohn yeah 3215 02:46:29,170 --> 02:46:23,109 welcome back fade to black I'm your host 3216 02:46:31,829 --> 02:46:29,180 Jimmy church Linda Moulton Howe man it 3217 02:46:34,329 --> 02:46:31,839 was a great conversation tonight 3218 02:46:36,939 --> 02:46:34,339 technical difficulties and all somebody 3219 02:46:39,279 --> 02:46:36,949 was interrupting that conversation with 3220 02:46:41,590 --> 02:46:39,289 Linda and I tonight I know I watched it 3221 02:46:44,229 --> 02:46:41,600 happen in here was pretty interesting I 3222 02:46:45,909 --> 02:46:44,239 opened up the phone lines god I gotta 3223 02:46:52,300 --> 02:46:45,919 have time for a few calls let's go to 3224 02:46:54,279 --> 02:46:52,310 area code four eight zero Europe hi my 3225 02:46:58,929 --> 02:46:54,289 name is Pamela can you hear me yes I can 3226 02:47:02,349 --> 02:46:58,939 you're live hi so I was in this is about 3227 02:47:04,630 --> 02:47:02,359 the octopus I was in line in San 3228 02:47:06,159 --> 02:47:04,640 Francisco to like one of those shows or 3229 02:47:08,859 --> 02:47:06,169 something they have this octopus there 3230 02:47:10,569 --> 02:47:08,869 and I you know we had our tickets and I 3231 02:47:13,029 --> 02:47:10,579 said to my girlfriend I said that 3232 02:47:15,670 --> 02:47:13,039 octopus is trying to talk to me and 3233 02:47:18,340 --> 02:47:15,680 she's like but I don't know it's talking 3234 02:47:26,319 --> 02:47:18,350 to me and from that day forward I have 3235 02:47:30,519 --> 02:47:26,329 not been able to eat octopus Thank You 3236 02:47:34,329 --> 02:47:30,529 Rita and I went out it was a couple of 3237 02:47:35,769 --> 02:47:34,339 weeks ago we're at a restaurant and if 3238 02:47:39,460 --> 02:47:35,779 stuff was being order being brought to 3239 02:47:41,739 --> 02:47:39,470 the table and we didn't but you know and 3240 02:47:44,979 --> 02:47:41,749 at calaman and calamari was brought to 3241 02:47:45,579 --> 02:47:44,989 the table and I I threw up in my mouth a 3242 02:47:49,510 --> 02:47:45,589 little bit 3243 02:47:53,559 --> 02:47:49,520 I just want I know I just I I can't go 3244 02:47:55,719 --> 02:47:53,569 there I I just there's something and 3245 02:47:58,689 --> 02:47:55,729 there's just something about it and and 3246 02:48:04,179 --> 02:47:58,699 I'm totally with you on that and then 3247 02:48:07,420 --> 02:48:04,189 how about the the World Cup a couple of 3248 02:48:09,159 --> 02:48:07,430 months ago and Japan is you know blazing 3249 02:48:11,590 --> 02:48:09,169 through the World Cup and they they had 3250 02:48:14,109 --> 02:48:11,600 this genius octopus over in Japan that 3251 02:48:17,079 --> 02:48:14,119 was making their predictions on the 3252 02:48:22,569 --> 02:48:17,089 World Cup and they turn around and they 3253 02:48:26,500 --> 02:48:22,579 ate the octopus right for sushi Japan 3254 02:48:28,389 --> 02:48:26,510 loses the next day you know that that 3255 02:48:30,819 --> 02:48:28,399 was just I don't know if you remember 3256 02:48:32,591 --> 02:48:30,829 the story but it was it was definitely 3257 02:48:35,200 --> 02:48:32,601 headlines going on around the world 3258 02:48:39,881 --> 02:48:35,210 I just can't do it anymore I can't just 3259 02:48:41,530 --> 02:48:39,891 the thought of it is yeah I don't know I 3260 02:48:43,180 --> 02:48:41,540 don't know the humanitarian in me I 3261 02:48:45,970 --> 02:48:43,190 don't know what it is but there's a 3262 02:48:48,520 --> 02:48:45,980 connection going on right now and I 3263 02:48:51,551 --> 02:48:48,530 think they're very very smart their eyes 3264 02:48:54,580 --> 02:48:51,561 the way they look at you right what did 3265 02:48:56,410 --> 02:48:54,590 what did the octopus say to you well it 3266 02:48:58,301 --> 02:48:56,420 was really interesting this is years 3267 02:49:00,280 --> 02:48:58,311 this is years ago and it was I don't 3268 02:49:00,970 --> 02:49:00,290 know it was like we were going into an 3269 02:49:03,341 --> 02:49:00,980 aquarium 3270 02:49:05,230 --> 02:49:03,351 and by the ticket thing there was an 3271 02:49:07,810 --> 02:49:05,240 octopus and he was stuck in this little 3272 02:49:11,501 --> 02:49:07,820 container and he was like talking to me 3273 02:49:14,650 --> 02:49:11,511 like he was like he made the connection 3274 02:49:17,650 --> 02:49:14,660 like hi and I'm like what and he's like 3275 02:49:19,751 --> 02:49:17,660 sort of like get me out of here and I 3276 02:49:22,270 --> 02:49:19,761 just looked at it and I turned to my 3277 02:49:22,660 --> 02:49:22,280 girlfriend and then I said he's talking 3278 02:49:25,211 --> 02:49:22,670 to me 3279 02:49:28,150 --> 02:49:25,221 well I'm very psychic anyway in a very 3280 02:49:30,070 --> 02:49:28,160 and then they opened the gates and we 3281 02:49:32,410 --> 02:49:30,080 had to go by and he was just this 3282 02:49:34,900 --> 02:49:32,420 octopus I felt like it was male it was 3283 02:49:36,940 --> 02:49:34,910 just like he's leaving me and then we 3284 02:49:41,591 --> 02:49:36,950 walked in and I just sat in disbelief 3285 02:49:46,180 --> 02:49:41,601 I'm like what you didn't go back did you 3286 02:49:48,820 --> 02:49:46,190 say goodbye no no I was so shocked I was 3287 02:49:50,680 --> 02:49:48,830 in shock that this this animal was 3288 02:49:54,490 --> 02:49:50,690 talking to me and then I watch something 3289 02:49:57,461 --> 02:49:54,500 on TV where they they had it in it would 3290 02:50:00,190 --> 02:49:57,471 like get in a lab they have this octopus 3291 02:50:03,131 --> 02:50:00,200 they finally put a camera on it would 3292 02:50:06,100 --> 02:50:03,141 squeeze out at night and go around the 3293 02:50:09,220 --> 02:50:06,110 lab and like touch things and look at 3294 02:50:12,400 --> 02:50:09,230 things they they're they're a sentient 3295 02:50:16,390 --> 02:50:12,410 being that are there they're smart yeah 3296 02:50:18,430 --> 02:50:16,400 there are there is a when you go and 3297 02:50:24,001 --> 02:50:18,440 watch those videos of them unscrewing 3298 02:50:28,511 --> 02:50:24,011 bottles right what was your name again 3299 02:50:29,620 --> 02:50:28,521 Pamela Thank You Pamela great phone call 3300 02:50:32,980 --> 02:50:29,630 thank you so much 3301 02:50:34,110 --> 02:50:32,990 you're bye-bye that's a great phone call 3302 02:50:36,910 --> 02:50:34,120 right there 3303 02:50:40,060 --> 02:50:36,920 octopus van I'm on a whole nother level 3304 02:50:41,501 --> 02:50:40,070 with him I think we all should be to go 3305 02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:41,511 back to the phones hi you live I'm fade 3306 02:50:46,480 --> 02:50:42,110 to black 3307 02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:46,490 area code 805 Europe next yeah Ben 3308 02:50:51,700 --> 02:50:49,010 duh beans what are you doing Jimmy how 3309 02:50:55,450 --> 02:50:51,710 are you that's the question great great 3310 02:50:59,140 --> 02:50:55,460 show great show tonight yeah this is 3311 02:51:03,461 --> 02:50:59,150 Kendra in the 805 Ventura and so I'm 3312 02:51:05,261 --> 02:51:03,471 kind of questioned on the whole closing 3313 02:51:07,720 --> 02:51:05,271 down of these solar observatory the 3314 02:51:10,570 --> 02:51:07,730 whole thing is just so odd I started 3315 02:51:14,461 --> 02:51:10,580 kind of diving into it a bit but when I 3316 02:51:18,310 --> 02:51:14,471 heard that the closure and the 3317 02:51:21,820 --> 02:51:18,320 evacuation for equipment okay that's one 3318 02:51:24,881 --> 02:51:21,830 thing equipment stolen you know you 3319 02:51:26,500 --> 02:51:24,891 don't evacuate I mean it's just none of 3320 02:51:29,530 --> 02:51:26,510 it makes any sense but what I found 3321 02:51:32,591 --> 02:51:29,540 particularly odd and I want to verify 3322 02:51:35,530 --> 02:51:32,601 this the dollar amount of the stolen 3323 02:51:40,990 --> 02:51:35,540 equipment what little again do you to 3324 02:51:44,921 --> 02:51:41,000 caucus I thought I heard $15,000 that's 3325 02:51:49,230 --> 02:51:44,931 right fifteen thousand of one set of 3326 02:51:52,360 --> 02:51:49,240 equipment of communications gear 3327 02:51:55,020 --> 02:51:52,370 evacuate an entire building you close 3328 02:51:57,070 --> 02:51:55,030 down a post office you have Blackhawk 3329 02:52:01,330 --> 02:51:57,080 helicopters you don't talk to the 3330 02:52:05,950 --> 02:52:01,340 sheriff about $15,000 worth of equipment 3331 02:52:10,200 --> 02:52:05,960 that's right that's right I know I know 3332 02:52:12,850 --> 02:52:10,210 I know and they it's it it could be 3333 02:52:16,990 --> 02:52:12,860 partially true it could be I I don't 3334 02:52:19,690 --> 02:52:17,000 know but the the story that they 3335 02:52:21,400 --> 02:52:19,700 released the statement that they 3336 02:52:24,850 --> 02:52:21,410 released with the story inside of it 3337 02:52:28,360 --> 02:52:24,860 that they didn't want to alert you know 3338 02:52:30,910 --> 02:52:28,370 the suspect well a Blackhawk helicopter 3339 02:52:33,430 --> 02:52:30,920 and the FBI evacuating a compound is not 3340 02:52:36,790 --> 02:52:33,440 going to alert the suspect you know they 3341 02:52:39,000 --> 02:52:36,800 didn't really think through their their 3342 02:52:41,290 --> 02:52:39,010 narrow you know it's kind of like every 3343 02:52:43,720 --> 02:52:41,300 you know harkens back to the Roswell 3344 02:52:46,720 --> 02:52:43,730 cover-up of how lame do you think we 3345 02:52:49,180 --> 02:52:46,730 really are actually that's right and I'm 3346 02:52:53,500 --> 02:52:49,190 not saying I'm not saying the TT I don't 3347 02:52:56,200 --> 02:52:53,510 know but they have blown it for sure I'm 3348 02:52:58,180 --> 02:52:56,210 a feeling though you made a good point I 3349 02:52:59,710 --> 02:52:58,190 first I thought well it does definitely 3350 02:53:02,290 --> 02:52:59,720 sound like sp 3351 02:53:05,469 --> 02:53:02,300 of some kind some hacking because of 3352 02:53:07,030 --> 02:53:05,479 white sounds right there duh but then 3353 02:53:09,580 --> 02:53:07,040 you would have had NSA and homeland 3354 02:53:11,889 --> 02:53:09,590 crawling all over the place but you just 3355 02:53:12,519 --> 02:53:11,899 have the FBI right right right right 3356 02:53:14,290 --> 02:53:12,529 right 3357 02:53:17,920 --> 02:53:14,300 and that was it no ATF like you said 3358 02:53:21,580 --> 02:53:17,930 certainly no no ATF and nobody else no 3359 02:53:23,650 --> 02:53:21,590 Homeland Security no NSA you know just 3360 02:53:25,780 --> 02:53:23,660 the whole thing is just so freaking yeah 3361 02:53:28,750 --> 02:53:25,790 hey don't go and you don't buy off the 3362 02:53:33,570 --> 02:53:28,760 whole compound with money to buy their 3363 02:53:37,059 --> 02:53:33,580 silence if it's stolen tech equipment oh 3364 02:53:38,050 --> 02:53:37,069 I can see 15 million dollars worth of 3365 02:53:41,800 --> 02:53:38,060 equipment right 3366 02:53:44,229 --> 02:53:41,810 fifteen thousand I mean I know I don't 3367 02:53:47,889 --> 02:53:44,239 know I I don't know what the bottom line 3368 02:53:51,729 --> 02:53:47,899 is here but we're gonna find out but 3369 02:53:53,080 --> 02:53:51,739 maybe that a minute I knew that the 3370 02:53:55,030 --> 02:53:53,090 story that they were going to come out 3371 02:53:56,979 --> 02:53:55,040 with was going to be a load of bull and 3372 02:53:58,929 --> 02:53:56,989 this certainly is thank you so much 3373 02:54:02,340 --> 02:53:58,939 Kendra B hey wait wait wait wait wait 3374 02:54:05,490 --> 02:54:02,350 okay has been any follow up on the 3375 02:54:09,340 --> 02:54:05,500 alleged shooting by the robots of the 3376 02:54:11,979 --> 02:54:09,350 Japanese scientists that last year in 3377 02:54:14,320 --> 02:54:11,989 August yeah that's that's a that's a 3378 02:54:20,530 --> 02:54:14,330 Linda Moulton Howe question and I didn't 3379 02:54:22,510 --> 02:54:20,540 get a chance to ask her I've never had a 3380 02:54:24,580 --> 02:54:22,520 close encounter with an octopus but I 3381 02:54:26,590 --> 02:54:24,590 have with a nine foot tall Kodiak bear 3382 02:54:29,260 --> 02:54:26,600 and little Tujunga at the wildlife 3383 02:54:32,530 --> 02:54:29,270 Waystation back when I was like 16 nose 3384 02:54:33,550 --> 02:54:32,540 to nose with this amazing creature but 3385 02:54:39,280 --> 02:54:33,560 not an octopus 3386 02:54:43,450 --> 02:54:39,290 yes Kendra thank you smoke debating slam 3387 02:54:47,889 --> 02:54:43,460 debate Jimmy I have a great night thank 3388 02:54:51,429 --> 02:54:47,899 you so much and I've I've got to get out 3389 02:54:53,019 --> 02:54:51,439 of here I don't have you know what 3390 02:54:55,420 --> 02:54:53,029 everybody that's on hold I just don't 3391 02:54:59,170 --> 02:54:55,430 have time to squeeze it one more call 3392 02:55:05,889 --> 02:54:59,180 before I got a run out of here I want to 3393 02:55:10,290 --> 02:55:05,899 say this the this story about the 3394 02:55:12,530 --> 02:55:10,300 National Solar laboratories closure is 3395 02:55:16,940 --> 02:55:12,540 not adding 3396 02:55:20,270 --> 02:55:16,950 to what we know a and I will go down 3397 02:55:22,150 --> 02:55:20,280 this list one more time the if it was a 3398 02:55:24,620 --> 02:55:22,160 security issue and you're going to 3399 02:55:28,040 --> 02:55:24,630 evacuate and there are crimes being 3400 02:55:32,090 --> 02:55:28,050 committed you would have I would think 3401 02:55:35,570 --> 02:55:32,100 at the very least the local sheriff's 3402 02:55:37,099 --> 02:55:35,580 department on alert and fully informed 3403 02:55:38,719 --> 02:55:37,109 as to what is going on because you have 3404 02:55:40,940 --> 02:55:38,729 other people that are living there too 3405 02:55:42,710 --> 02:55:40,950 as well you also have to secure that 3406 02:55:44,330 --> 02:55:42,720 front gate which none of that was done 3407 02:55:47,929 --> 02:55:44,340 and the sheriff wasn't even concerned 3408 02:55:50,980 --> 02:55:47,939 about that right there is red flag 3409 02:55:55,400 --> 02:55:50,990 number one red flag number two the 3410 02:55:58,070 --> 02:55:55,410 x-files DVD of the game now as crazy as 3411 02:56:02,570 --> 02:55:58,080 that sounds that was left there to be 3412 02:56:04,370 --> 02:56:02,580 discovered why as the FBI is leaving 3413 02:56:05,889 --> 02:56:04,380 that base if that was something that 3414 02:56:09,260 --> 02:56:05,899 they didn't want to have us talk about 3415 02:56:10,099 --> 02:56:09,270 they don't leave that DVD there that's 3416 02:56:14,090 --> 02:56:10,109 number two 3417 02:56:17,810 --> 02:56:14,100 number three the entrance to the 3418 02:56:20,810 --> 02:56:17,820 workshop and the tools are all left open 3419 02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:20,820 for any vandals to go up and quite 3420 02:56:28,280 --> 02:56:25,170 simply burgle and rob but you leave that 3421 02:56:30,410 --> 02:56:28,290 open I don't I don't get that part it 3422 02:56:34,250 --> 02:56:30,420 just doesn't make any sense 3423 02:56:36,950 --> 02:56:34,260 the entire place was sanitized there was 3424 02:56:39,230 --> 02:56:36,960 nothing left out in the open except for 3425 02:56:42,560 --> 02:56:39,240 a DVD of the x-files 3426 02:56:45,500 --> 02:56:42,570 it completely sanitized the windows 3427 02:56:48,500 --> 02:56:45,510 boarded up on these homes but yet you 3428 02:56:50,469 --> 02:56:48,510 leave the front gate wide open and and 3429 02:56:52,610 --> 02:56:50,479 don't have the sheriff's there 3430 02:56:56,020 --> 02:56:52,620 preventing people from going onto that 3431 02:57:00,050 --> 02:56:56,030 property now all of this all of this 3432 02:57:02,330 --> 02:57:00,060 stinks to high heaven now I'm not saying 3433 02:57:03,950 --> 02:57:02,340 it's et because I don't know I'm not 3434 02:57:05,480 --> 02:57:03,960 saying it's espionage I'm not saying 3435 02:57:08,570 --> 02:57:05,490 it's bombs I'm not saying that there was 3436 02:57:09,830 --> 02:57:08,580 theft and and inside information I don't 3437 02:57:12,349 --> 02:57:09,840 know about any of that I don't know 3438 02:57:15,590 --> 02:57:12,359 about hacking and computer information 3439 02:57:17,540 --> 02:57:15,600 and white sands and in Holloman Air 3440 02:57:19,580 --> 02:57:17,550 Force Base you've got Roswell down the 3441 02:57:21,080 --> 02:57:19,590 street too as well I don't know about 3442 02:57:25,070 --> 02:57:21,090 any of that 3443 02:57:27,770 --> 02:57:25,080 I don't I don't but none of it is has 3444 02:57:31,040 --> 02:57:27,780 anything to do with the statement that 3445 02:57:34,790 --> 02:57:31,050 they released themselves there you go 3446 02:57:37,340 --> 02:57:34,800 now I'll say it once I'll say it again 3447 02:57:41,060 --> 02:57:37,350 we're going to be talking about this 3448 02:57:45,530 --> 02:57:41,070 closure of this Observatory for a very 3449 02:57:49,610 --> 02:57:45,540 long time and aura and the FBI did 3450 02:57:50,570 --> 02:57:49,620 nothing to squash the stories that are 3451 02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:50,580 going out there 3452 02:57:54,380 --> 02:57:52,800 right now inside of our community and 3453 02:57:57,380 --> 02:57:54,390 that is the bottom line 3454 02:58:00,800 --> 02:57:57,390 and I don't know forever gonna I knew 3455 02:58:02,810 --> 02:58:00,810 everybody I knew that when they were 3456 02:58:05,900 --> 02:58:02,820 gonna make their official statement and 3457 02:58:08,120 --> 02:58:05,910 this was gonna come out that it was it 3458 02:58:11,300 --> 02:58:08,130 wasn't gonna be right and then sure 3459 02:58:12,560 --> 02:58:11,310 enough they should have done a press 3460 02:58:15,500 --> 02:58:12,570 conference they should have done 3461 02:58:18,469 --> 02:58:15,510 everything to disclose what was going on 3462 02:58:21,080 --> 02:58:18,479 up there they did nothing fate of blacks 3463 02:58:23,090 --> 02:58:21,090 executive producers Rita Kumari on shows 3464 02:58:24,950 --> 02:58:23,100 produced by him Jay pom Renee Dennis and 3465 02:58:27,889 --> 02:58:24,960 Bob announces our Steve harder Jean 3466 02:58:30,490 --> 02:58:27,899 Patou and Martin Teague of our webmaster 3467 02:58:33,980 --> 02:58:30,500 is Drew the geek music doug aldrich 3468 02:58:37,940 --> 02:58:33,990 intro space boys space boy music calm 3469 02:58:41,510 --> 02:58:37,950 beta black is produced by kjsurya and 3470 02:58:44,120 --> 02:58:41,520 syndications k GRA the planet thank you 3471 02:58:47,300 --> 02:58:44,130 to Linda Moulton Howe for the amazing 3472 02:58:50,330 --> 02:58:47,310 conversation tonight and everybody that 3473 02:58:52,190 --> 02:58:50,340 was tweeting vodcasts on copyright of 3474 02:58:53,719 --> 02:58:52,200 2018 by fade to black in the game 3475 02:58:55,820 --> 02:58:53,729 changer network they cannot be 3476 02:58:57,679 --> 02:58:55,830 rebroadcast download a copy to use 3477 02:58:59,540 --> 02:58:57,689 anywhere in the known universe without 3478 02:59:00,180 --> 02:58:59,550 written permission from fade to black of 3479 02:59:02,461 --> 02:59:00,190 the game 3480 02:59:06,661 --> 02:59:02,471 your net worth are you ready tomorrow 3481 02:59:10,051 --> 02:59:06,671 night right here Freeman is on fade to 3482 02:59:12,871 --> 02:59:10,061 black go check out the new snooze CD 3483 02:59:14,970 --> 02:59:12,881 just released today gotta thank Curtis 3484 02:59:17,400 --> 02:59:14,980 Don Vito for coming in and announcing 3485 02:59:25,290 --> 02:59:17,410 that until tomorrow night I want